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Originally Posted by Robbie
Mark, you're still trolling right?
You can't honestly think that having so many people being on food stamps is a GOOD thing?
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My point was that food stamps help alot of people who need it, and that food stamps do not cost as much as people think, and that food stamps can be good for an economy.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
As for "jobs"....yes, the housing market tanked in 2008 and the banks nearly collapsed which led to massive unemployment in 2009.
But the years before that? They were VERY good. And our "recovery" is nowhere NEAR the days of the hated Bush regime:
The way you are presenting your "facts" is very misleading. And is what a site like motherjones (completely in the back pocket of the Democrat party) wants you to believe. |
Actually, this highlights another problem. You choose not to believe a news source because you say it is democratic leaning. I too could say that I disbelieve a news source because it is republican-leaning. If you believe one news source and I believe the other, how do we determine which news source is actually telling the truth? Honest question...
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Originally Posted by Robbie
That's why I keep trying to tell you....don't fall for the bullshit of the 2 party system in the USA.
Both the Dems and the Repubicans are totally and completely liars and full of shit.
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Both have lied and got into all kinds of trouble and done shitty things, yes. I never really say "dems are perfect". I just point out the goofiness of the GOP and ask why people vote for them.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
Bush inherited a great economy from Clinton...who got it from the internet boom years in the 1990's.
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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
The whole thing tumbled down because of the housing market collapse which was caused by...you guessed it: politicians and lifetime bureaucrats from BOTH parties in Congress and the Senate.
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Partially true, but there were other factors : Bush lowered taxes, alot, AND started 2 very expensive wars. No president has ever started a war and lowered taxes at the same time. Wars are expensive and need to be paid for, so taxes are usually raised in times of war, not lowered.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
Pres. Obama never really focused on fixing that. He and Bush gave trillions to banks to bail them out while normal people went broke and lost everything.
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It's hard to say what would have happened had he not bailed the banks out. The bail out most probably avoided a big recession, possible worldwide. The bail out also saved millions of jobs. Don't forget that Romney said "Let Detroit go bankrupt".
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Originally Posted by Robbie
They COULD have used those trillions to pay off people's mortgages. That would have saved the banks AND the citizens. But they BOTH chose to line the pockets of the bankers instead.
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No this would not have worked. There is a very good article about why this is, at
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/...not-homeowners
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Originally Posted by Robbie
Stop believing propaganda from either side.
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Ditto?
peace.