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Old 06-25-2014, 03:06 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by CDSmith View Post
I'm one of those people Kane. While I was never that overweight I do have some serious health issues, and the deterioration in my back is a lifelong sentence for me that is now curtailing a lot of exercise activities that I used to take for granted. I know full well what you're trying to say, but you're not entirely correct. But what I'm saying is very much a choice and a commitment, no question, and not everyone has that kind of commitment in them, but they do have a choice.

They just have to make it. Or else wait for that magic pill to be invented that rids them of their excess tonnage. OR... have their insides mutilated, get their stomach stapled or what have you. I have a couple of cousins in the states that had that done. It worked, but I know others that had it done and later gained weight even with the smaller stomach.... because their stomachs stretched even further. lol



See above for most of that. As for smoking etc, all that takes a commitment to oneself as well. That still doesn't negate the fact that what I'm saying works. Of course it will only work for someone who is truly fed up with being a fat out-of-breath smoker who drinks a lot and wants to change once and for all.

Hey, I had to give up a good 95% of the booze as well. I'll still take a drink now and again or a glass of wine at dinner, but I keep a limit on it. Don't think for a second that I'm chirping on here but didn't have to make any personal changes and sacrifices of my own. If you think that you'd be way wrong.
My aunt had that surgery and it was the worst thing she has ever done.She had serious complications that caused her to be laid up for about 9 months after it was done. She lost her job and nearly lost everything she had. A year and a half after the surgery she had lost a lot of weight (about 150 pounds), but now, about 6 years later, she has gained almost all of it back. Like you said, even the small stomach can stretch back out and many people just go back to the same habits that they had before.

I'm not belittling your situation by any means. We all have our struggles and it sounds like you have had plenty. I am just saying, it is much harder for someone who needs to lose 100 pounds to do it and keep it off than someone who needs to lose 25.

Also, like you said, it is a choice. You just have to chose to want to do it and will yourself to do it. Many people, however, have mental issues surrounding their weight that can sabotage those choices. For people like that they need mental help along with the physical/nutritional help so they can make the proper choices.

Look at it kind of like an addiction. If a person is a drug addict they will have things/situations that trigger them and make them crave the drugs and want to use. Addiction recovery teaches them how to recognize those triggers, avoid them, and deal with them when they do come up. Food can be the same way. People eat poorly for a lot of different reasons. They need to figure out why that it is and deal with the root cause of it to help make those choices of eating correctly easier.
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