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Originally Posted by kane
My aunt had that surgery and it was the worst thing she has ever done.She had serious complications that caused her to be laid up for about 9 months after it was done. She lost her job and nearly lost everything she had. A year and a half after the surgery she had lost a lot of weight (about 150 pounds), but now, about 6 years later, she has gained almost all of it back. Like you said, even the small stomach can stretch back out and many people just go back to the same habits that they had before.
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Yes indeed, it's one of those things that seems to work great for some, and creates a whole new horrible mess for others. Also, a surgical fix of any type is only going to get someone so far, they STILL have to change the way they eat and the way they live. If they're unwilling to do their part by way of mainenance they will absolutely slide back into obesity which is one of those rare problems where when you gain, you lose. :D
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I'm not belittling your situation by any means. We all have our struggles and it sounds like you have had plenty. I am just saying, it is much harder for someone who needs to lose 100 pounds to do it and keep it off than someone who needs to lose 25.
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Yes and not. I'm agreeing that it can be, but it doesn't HAVE to be, if that makes sense. I'm saying anyone who makes the necesary changes I'm talking about can eat themselves thinner, over time. And there's the difference between 100 lbs and 30 lbs. Time. It takes longer to lose the weight, not harder. Barring a few adjustments here or there the basic plan is the same no matter how big one is.
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Also, like you said, it is a choice. You just have to chose to want to do it and will yourself to do it. Many people, however, have mental issues surrounding their weight that can sabotage those choices. For people like that they need mental help along with the physical/nutritional help so they can make the proper choices.
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I never said otherwise. I also never mentioned my own struggles with depression over the past dozen or more years, which I've had my share of. If one needs help with "mental issues" then they should be seeing someone about it. This still does not negate the fact that what I'm advocating works.
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Look at it kind of like an addiction. If a person is a drug addict they will have things/situations that trigger them and make them crave the drugs and want to use. Addiction recovery teaches them how to recognize those triggers, avoid them, and deal with them when they do come up. Food can be the same way. People eat poorly for a lot of different reasons. They need to figure out why that it is and deal with the root cause of it to help make those choices of eating correctly easier.
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You're really starting to sound like an enabler and and excuse-maker my friend. :D
Look, I'm not saying there aren't a lot of different types of people, some weaker or more dependant or desponent than others etc. All I'm saying is that if certain changes to one's eating habits are made you will in fact lose weight. That's all. The rest is up to each person to make the commitment to themselves to do it. I've finally after a lot of years struggling with a bunch of things have made that commitment. And guess what? It's working.
I decided I no longer give a **** about urges or triggers etc. I decided that *I* am the one in charge of myself, not these urges everyone talks about. And... if you (as in anyone) follows the plan daily (and it's not a rigorous plan either, in fact you end up eating more frequently) and sticks to it for life you (as in anyone) will A) lose weight at a healthy rate, and B) keep that weight off.
Now if you don't mind I have some raw baby carrots and grapes to munch down as my pre-dinner snack...