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Originally Posted by Grapesoda
apples and oranges Richard ... it's not about how many... it's about what is legal and what is not legal  |
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda
pls edit your self Richard.. your off tangent
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Originally Posted by kane
The issue isn't how many times it was done, but in this case the circumstances surrounding it.
The republicans knew that Obama would likely do recess appointments during the holiday break so they decided to try to stop him from doing that (up until then they had carried out an historical number of filibusters against his appointees so they knew these recess appointments were coming). They carried out a procedure called a pro-forma session. This allowed for just a few Senators to show up and take roll call. They didn't do anything, but since they showed up they claimed it was a legit session and therefore there was no recess so Obama couldn't carry out his recess appointments. Obama and his legal team disagreed (there was no real legal precedence for this) and carried out three appointments. Pepsico sued Obama because they didn't like one of the people he appointed. They claimed that he illegally appointed this person using a recess appointment when their was no recess. Eventually the case made its way through the system and the Supreme Court ruled against Obama.
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Bullshit. Congress plays games by refusing to appoint people to positions strictly for political reasons, playing games, and intentionally held things up to play political games. Obama bypassed them doing the same thing every president has done and it's illegal?
Bullshit. Congress needs to do it's job.
And this is the problem with the Republican party. All they are trying to do is make Obama look bad. Fine, great, wonderful - instead of doing their jobs we'll just remove everyone appointed, and the only people that suffer is the American people who have huge government agencies with no one at the helm. In the end, Obama will still be President. The Republicans accomplished NOTHING other than hurting the American public. Again.
Just like with Obamacare - hundreds of lawsuits, and Obamacare is still a law and Obama is still President.