Originally Posted by lagcam

There is a very simple difference between your posts and agenda and mine and that is that I want Zombaio to trade out of their problems and pay everybody what they are owed, and you want Zombaio to go out of business and for everybody to lose their money because you are mad at being closed down by them.... despite that probably being on the instructions of either visa or mastercard.

You have no dog in the fight so you should shut up.

I do have a dog, and his bollocks are on the line and I don't want him to lose them.

By trying to support Zombaio's efforts to recover by being more patient than I would normally be and by not constantly calling them liars, thieves and cock suckers or trying to put doubts in the mind of other people prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt, I feel that I am at least giving them a chance to try and make things right.

I appreciate that even if everybody took this calmer approach it still may not be enough as the same people that got themselves into this state are unlikely to be able to get themselves out without additional specialist help or a big cash injection, but the way I look at it is that no matter what the prize or the target, a slim chance of getting something is always better than no chance.