Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

You may have something with the newspaper model. But idea needs to be modified.
I would refuse to give cumshots to the tubes. If its cumshot or no front page than I would pass on working with that tube. As people above said they will just charge for memberships, use your clips and say fuck you to content producer.

I think its time for site owners and content producers to take our traffic back.

Some ideas:
Offer shorter membership packages.
Offer more content for loyal members staying longer.
Offer niche specific only packages.
Offer streaming only vs downloading and streaming.

If you make a tube do it differently. Do it from a content owners perspective. Zero pop ups, better quality videos. Maybe give the beginning of a cumshot.
My most successful program, one that converts like crazy will sometimes give partial cumshots then fade to black. Rarely they do this. But it works.

I work in the country with the most sales and biggest production in the world. More porn is produced here in one month than in several months in the US. Some of the practices here can be adapted to the west. I am willing to discuss ideas off the board.

One thing content owners can be is surfer friendly. Tubes are not.
Offer experiences to the surfer that make them like your site. People go to tubes for free but the experience is not fun dealing with all the ads and malware...

A trade union is a great idea but there is too much riff-raff in this business for it to work.

Perhaps people should take seriously the Jewish business model. Jews refuse to work with anti-semites. Jews organize and stick together and work tirelessly. Whether we are Jews or not we need to adapt that philosophy and shun individuals and companies who play the tube game. Shun the webmasters who play dirt games, who steal our work, who re-watermark our content and call it their own, who swap out our affiliate codes for theirs, who use our content to sell cams and dick pills.

At this point things are in a whirl thanks to JT and his exclusive deal. Tubes and people who depend on tubes are going to be or are in trouble. NOW is OUR time to hit. Follow the Israeli model. When you have two enemies fighting, make problems for both of them. JT has admitted it. Content is KING. Cut off the content flow to tubes and have a DMCA agent relentlessly hit them and everyone in their food chain with notices.

Critics of Adult King say he has no affect but he is having an affect. Site by site he is shutting down lockers and now is on to tubes.

We have to do the same thing. Site by site, choke the life out of these thieving cunts.

If you are not willing to engage in a meaningful fight then maybe you should quit and sell shoes or something.

Originally Posted by Biggy

heh, i love when people make this analogy.

so theres 1,000,000 content producers left to submit videos, who are shooting solid, new content?

If I had to guess, when you start getting to the #20, if you could even get that high, there's not much left after that. maybe you could get above that # if you take the affiliates submitting from the handful of quality producers left which falsely compounds the # of good content producers. You'd be really hard pressed to get above 50 everything included. I've been doing this since 1998 and I don't think right now I could come up with more than 20 if I spat out all the major companies on the web + DVD producers left that shoot consistently. Is Pimproll still shooting content?

The tubes have successfully cannibalized a TON of content producers to the point where there is only a handful left. The amount of new content being shot is at all time lows, does anyone really dispute this? But the one reason people want to come to the tubes is content. It's a catch 22. This is something that tubes should think about in their treatment of content partners, which is really the entire concept of the OP's post.