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Originally Posted by aka123
No, I do not live in USA. I think this place is called as Earth.
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In the US we are a culture of violance and a country that is saturated in guns. Danger can be around any corner. Around 120 cops are killed on the job every year so there is a real danger to the job. That is why I ask. You likely grew up and live in a place with a different culture.
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I don't understand your scenarios, I, and pretty much everybody kills if necessary. But here are my answers.
1. Preferebly I would back off, since the other guy has upper hand. Or I would take my gun and order the other guy to stand down (enforcing the command by pointing with a gun). Or better yet, I would act before the situation develops to what you described.
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Please tell me how you would have acted before the situation developed. He pulled over and got out of his car. The guys stopped walking and he asked them to take their hands out of their pockets. What more could have been done?
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2. I would shoot back, preferably not lethally. Or better yet, I wouldn't let the situation develop as you described. I have had military training and one important thing is not let the situation to develop to the point where almost nothing is to be done. Being active, aggressive and decisive is important. When you are tied, blindfolded and against a wall, it's too late (literally and by figuratively speaking).
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Again, the guy was being cooperative. How could they have done things differently to keep the situation from developing? Should they have just ran in the room, tackled him to the ground and kicked his ass? In 1 second he went from being cool to attacking them.
BTW police are trained normally to shoot to kill. If you wing the guy in the leg he can still shoot and kill you.
When you see that there are nearly 400 people killed by the police each year, most of them are situations like this where you, yourself, admit you would have used force.
There are shitty situations where people get killed that don't deserve it. When those happen they get a lot of attention. Earlier when I said most shootings are because people are being stupid, this is what I meant. This guy was being stupid.
For the record, in the first incident my buddy drew his gun but didn't fire. It turned out to be a small thermos. The guy thought it would be funny to offer the police some coffee. In the second case my buddy jumped forward, pushed the guy against the wall and hit him with a tazer which instantly subdued him. Here is the frightening part. The other office that was with him...froze in panic and just stood there.