thefreakybeaver

First of all don't call me bud!

For you to "assume" everything in your post about me, who you obviously know NOTHING about or you'd know at least some basic information about me.

For you to assume that any webmasters will "perish" because of this is plain stupid from the get go. To state that I will be one of them is even stupider. I will still be here, just making less money for the same amount of money and time spent is all. Just like most of the other webmasters who are in this full time and for the long haul.

Now instead of looking to increase my revenue each month, buying new servers and more content to push even more traffic to these programs, I will settle with my income as it is now (by using the programs that didn't lower payouts) and sustain it and not help anyone else get richer than I already have. I make enough to be comfortable with, but I wanted a little bit more as does everyone.


If nobody had stepped in and gave their opinion on this payout lowering don't you think just about every single sponsor would have jumped on the bandwagon?

If they thought webmasters would sit back and take it without having ANY problem with it all, it would have happened with 90% or more of the sponsors.

I simply laid my opinion down, be it a negative one to those sponsors who already jumped to make the announcement that they were lowering their payouts.

Just because you are foolish enough to believe that EVERY sponsor who has been paying $30+/signup has been LOSING money the past year, not all of us are. This 1% new rule is being used as an excuse some of them are using. You would see this if you read all the posts from the sponsors on this issue. Some are stating they've been losing money all along and it needed changed BEFORE this 1% rule even came around.

Many sponsors have now announced they will NOT be lowering payouts and 2 that I know of are even higher their payouts. If they can do it, why can't they all?

There are those that CAN but will choose to lower the payout anyway because they now have a "good excuse" in their minds.

There are those that CAN if they ran their business right and tightened down on their expenses that aren't so highly needed. What good is free hosting and sponsor hosted galleries if the payout is lowered to the point that Most webmasters won't promote them anyway? Webmasters are their bread and butter and they can deny it all day long but just ask any one of them what % of their income comes from webmasters! And I'm talking all webmasters who send traffic, whether they own paysites, tgps, linklists, gallery submitter, free site and avs builders etc.

And then there are those that cannot survive by lowering payouts. I don't believe any of the "Big Boys" are in this classification.

And I was never pissing and moaning, just stating my opinions and opening up the discussion for other webmasters, even if they don't want to post their opinions to at least think about what these sponsors are doing. They come here crying poverty and some webmasters will buy into that if they haven't been around the boards long enough to KNOW just how much these paysite owners really make from the traffic that us webmasters bust our ass and PAY to send them.

My husband and I left the corporate world because we started making more money in this biz and started investing more money to EXPAND. We saw the future earning potential which was now in the process of being lowered in an extreme amount.

It looked like these sponsors got together and discussed this issue in far too much depth for competitors to be discussing, in order to lower the payouts and still be good competition for each other. Cmon applauding each other for lowering the payouts?

If 3 or shit even 2 design firms got together and said okay we will ALL charge $100 for a tgp design and $5,000 MINIMUM for a paysite design, that is illegal is it not? This may not be the same thing but it's damn close enough to send up red flags and make me feel the webmasters are being jerked around here.

Just like the paysite owners whined about the joint announcement frome the processors about the $750 fee not too long ago!! They were losing a BIG $750 webmasters stand to lose thousands upon thousands in this newest "change"

Someone spoke of loyalty to a sponsor who has been good to them etc. Would they be so loyal if they found out the sponsor cut their payouts by $10/signup and didn't need to? Would they still feel that loyalty if they found out that the average "worth" of a surfer stayed the same or even went up and they were making less by sending that surfer? If the answer to that is yes lol there are more fools than I ever imagined.

I no longer have a problem with this whole thing, most of the GOOD sponsors are NOT lowering their payouts and some of them raised them. I'm happy with that. I was worried this was an across the board lowering of payouts (which it could have very well been if NOBODY bitched about it right from the beginning)

I assume you are a webmaster, can't tell by your 11 posts sorry. What if suddenly your pay was cut and because you, without any knowledge of it, sent shit traffic that chargedback alot and sponsors started canning your ass? As Topbucks is now doing to webmasters? Bet you wouldn't be so happy to except lower pay as you are now. (and before you assume again, no topbucks didn't get rid of me YET LOL)

And how much would you like to wager on that bet of yours?

Let's see I'll make a bet here. Your male, under 28, lived with mom until you were at least 22 (or still do) and started in this biz to make enough money to pay for your beer on the weekends? Bet my guess is closer to the truth than yours Now GO FUCK YOURSELF.