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Old 09-21-2014, 08:16 AM  
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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
Again, the entire point is to catch the person with the drugs.

Great, your neighbors were all charged - but how many of them were found guilty and went to prison?

All of them were convicted of some charge or another. You don't go to prison for first offence pot charges in Canada. At least not back when this happened.



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They don't have "one guy" outside watching the house. You have to watch the house for days to figure out who is in it, and what their routine is going to be,.

And it still doesn't matter because they want to catch him in the house with the drugs, not find the drugs without him there.
I am so glad you know all the intricacies of police work. With the big military surplus items the police forces are getting these days in the US it would take 5 minutes to see how many people were in the house using thermal imaging.

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You keep missing the point that the method they used to serve the warrant was flawed. I don't care if they served the warrant while he was there or while he was away, you can't serve it by busting through windows like a common criminal. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD. Cops serving a no-knock warrant through a window are most likely going to get shot.


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A home invasion doesn't go through a window, it goes through the front door. You want to gain access for multiple people as quickly as you can, not have them climb through a window one at a time.
Ho many burglars do you know that just come right through the front door? Do you think if they would have knocked on the front door and announced they were police with a search warrant things would have went a little better? I do. Coming through a window unannounced makes you look like a thief and ends up getting people shot.


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How do you not understand this?

Which is going to be better and safer - Police catching him off guard while he is sleeping or doing a full felony stop with an armed man in public?
I understand that logic perfectly, I wasn't questioning that. I was questioning why you said "the search warrant was for the house not the car." Where the hell did I suggest they search the car? Your comment made no sense and still makes no sense. You reply to one thing by going off on a tangent about something completely irrelevant to what was being discussed.



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Typically police do a no knock raid when the suspect has a violent history or is expected to be armed. My guess is that this guy was always armed and police knew it.
All the more reason to not enter the building through a window like a common burglar.


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It sounds odd they went though a window from a tactical view point the would want to enter the house from multiple access points and we don't know the details.
I agree, pretty fucking stupid to go through a window.

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I am pretty confident they all yelled police and yelled out that they had a warrant when they entered
Well you can assume all you want but that doesn't make it true. The whole purpose of these retarded no-knock warrants is to gain surprise and not make your presence immediately known to the suspect. They paid the price this time. And so did the guy who was chilling in bed who hadn't broke any laws and had no reason to be willing to throw his life away just so he could cut down a row of cops.

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