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Old 09-21-2014, 04:29 PM  
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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
Yes, but... The cops weren't looking for a small stash of pot; They don't serve no knock warrants for $40 in pot. Most likely he was further up the food chain. He wasn't going to ticket for pot, but instead they expected to throw him in jail for much larger charges.

If you read a little bit more about this, you find out the reason they went in so heavy when he was home was because they had expected to find "bags of cocaine".
I don't really care what their reasoning was, going through the window was a bad idea no matter what they thought he was up to. And apparently they found nothing other than a glass pipe and a grinder, which most likely means he liked to smoke a joint once in a while.

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I worked as a small arms combat instructor in the military, which included training local police departments.
How many times did you instruct cops on entering peoples' houses through the windows? I'm guessing that probably never came up, and for good reason.


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I am also guessing that the vast majority of towns don't have thermal imaging units.
Maybe the police in Killeen Texas (where the deceased cop was from) should consider buying one. They just blew over $200,000 on 231 assault rifles.

It's easy to see where their priorities lie.

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I didn't miss that point at all. In fact, I said here in this thread that I didn't understand why they could come through the window. For all you and I know maybe both the front and back doors were barricaded so prevent such entry - this is common in drug houses.
Well that is my whole point. Not sure what you are arguing about then. It was stupid to go through the window. And apparently he was in an apartment complex. There's usually only one entrance to an apartment. If this was a drug house, why didn't they find any drugs? Why would someone barricade the entrance to an apartment that has nothing illegal in it?

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Burglars usually don't blow through the front door yelling "Police, we have a warrant".
Ya, I agree, they come through the windows or other less noticeable entrances like these cops foolishly did.

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I said this because you said they could have just pulled him over in his car. I said the warrant for his house, not his car.
I clearly said they could arrest him in the car or at work or wherever LATER if they searched his house and found drugs.

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If he broke any laws or not hasn't been revealed yet. Police do not go doing no knock warrants unless they have a good reason to do so. They believed this guy had bags of cocaine in his house. They not only arrested him, but also arrested his girlfriend, and took over 130 items from his house including plastic bags found in the car believed to have transported large amounts of cocaine.
This happened way back in May, so it's not like they haven't had time to determine if he should face additional charges. Everything I have read says the worst they could get him for is possession of drug paraphernalia for a glass pipe they found. How many people here have a bong or something in their house? Would a reasonable man knowingly open fire on cops for fear of being charged with possession of drug paraphernalia? This is simply more evidence this guy thought he was being robbed or attacked, etc.

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You already know how this is going to go down - Police are going to paint this guy as a massive drug dealer, and the courts aren't going to care what happens to him
Ya, that is what they will try to do. Unfortunately they don't seem to have any evidence of that other than the word of an informant that turned out to be totally false.
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