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Originally Posted by Due
I disagree. In adult there is a lot of people that wrote a script then call themselves a programmer. That doesn't make them a programmer 
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That's just an extension of what I'm saying. Most "programmers" in adult can't define design patterns, talk about unit testing, why not to use singletons, the right way and wrong way to go about a PDO call, etc .. it's depressing. The ones I've hired are the result of a long process of careful screening and evaluation. It's really brutal finding the "good" ones, and even harder to retain them.