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Originally Posted by dyna mo
I just don't see why you can't even give Obama credit on this.
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Typical. Righties can't give Obama credit for anything, ever. It's not in your DNA.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
Mark, I thought this discussion was (once again) about the gas that we exhale every time we breath and that plants need to survive: CO2
Now you are calling CO2 "pollution" and somehow tying it in with clean water?
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Hi Robbie...
Yes we exhale CO2, and plants breath it in. There has always been CO2 in the atmosphere. The problem though, is that today there is a lot more of it, and soon there could be too much CO2. Plants and trees are very effective at sucking the CO2 in and pushing it into the ground, but deforestation and urban expansion are reducing the how fast CO2 can be absorbed.
I mention clean water because increased global warming means increased drought. California is in serious trouble already.
However, too much CO2 in the ocean is causing Ocean Acidification. When CO2 dissolves in sea water it increases hydrogen ions and decreases the pH level, which damages corals, which form the habitat of approximately 25% of marine species.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
That's the reason that people like you drive other people AWAY from your argument when you don't base it on reality.
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I don't mean to drive you away man, I'm sorry... but this comes from NOAA.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
And by the way...the MAIN thing that is leading to people (poor people anyway) having their "lives more miserable" is the fact that the govt. is deliberately making energy prices more expensive.
And that in turn makes EVERYTHING more expensive...and as usual, hurts the poor the most. 
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The markets + supply and demand is what controls the price of energy, not the government or the president.
What's up (and down) with gasoline prices? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
What hurts poor people the most isn't just high energy prices. It's lack of opportunity, access to education, crime, health, lack of proper social assistance, and of course the export of job opportunities to other countries etc, the list goes on.
Peace...