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Originally Posted by **********
Did you see the video?
He was selling cigarettes - A single cig for 50 cents. That was his only crime.
He put his hands up right away.
He had knees in his back and his face pushed into the sidewalk while in a choke hold.
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You fucking dumbass. He put his hands up saying "don't touch me" and was clearly resisting. He didn't put his hands up saying "i surrender" or "ok, cuff me, i understand" and this guy had constant run ins with police, constant arrests and it wasn't their first rodeo with him, or fist time trying to arrest him either.. a fact which the video obviously doesn't show and which you're all too willing to ignore.
No one can say the police over reacted without fully understanding their prior interactions with him and how he acted.
Seems to me they were operating with a great deal more knowledge than a foreigner has from a youtube video.
People talk all this shit about US police as if there is a problem. Those people have obviously never traveled. In 1/2 the countries in the world, he would have raised his voice to police and then promptly been drug around the corner and had his head kicked in.
All they were trying to do was put handcuffs on him and HE made that a problem, not the police. A grand jury heard all the evidence and agreed. End of story.
"Garner had been previously arrested and was out on bail for selling untaxed cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false personation. Garner had a criminal record that includes more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980 on charges such as assault, resisting arrest, grand larceny. An official said the charges include multiple incidents in which he was arrested for selling unlicensed cigarettes"
"Garner's death was recorded by Ramsey Orta, a friend of Garner's, who was subsequently indicted on charges of third degree criminal possession of a weapon"
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Originally Posted by **********
The Choke hold is illegal in New York.
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100% false. But then again, you aren't swayed by facts no matter how much you want to pass yourself off as a "man of science".