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Originally Posted by dyna mo
that's not the point though. this isn't about the government or general numbers, the question was does ********** conserve and the answer is no. It's not a generalized question, it's specific. True conservationists do not add to the problem, they subtract from it, i.e. conserve.
Moreover, one does not have to buy that much of an older car or a pos car to conserve. Canada has GOBS of clean diesel cars for sale there and has for years. A 5 year old VW TDI with 75000 miles on it has already amortized most its' carbon footprint and someone who is interested in cleaning up the environment and not polluting would purchase that car to conserve energy, not a brand new car that also, by the way, has a much larger manufacturing carbon footprint than a clean diesel.
there is a mountain of data online to corroborate what I just wrote too.
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Yea I agree with what you are saying, it's just often that argument is used to make it seem as if hybrids or electric cars are no better than regular cars. However it's not the case with all older cars. There really are just a limited few that can get that kind of mileage.
Take my vanagon for instance, it's actually a heavy van with a under powered 4 cylinder. Due to that the mileage kinda sucks for a vehicle it's size. I get about 15 in the city and 17-18 on the highway. Meanwhile I have a 200hp Ecotec out of a Saturn Sky that I'm putting in my Syncro. With that motor I will get around 25mpg on average. Meaning I'm increasing the MPG by quite a bit, yet I could never register the van in Cali, because even if it had cleaner emissions it's not an approved conversion.