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I'll believe Nasa and NOAA over anyone else. You should too.
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That is nothing but appeal to authority. Do you honestly believe that NASA and NOAA are infallible and beyond the reach of their political masters? At the end of the day they are government departments. NASA and NOAA have been caught several times adjusting and fudging the data. Now why do you suppose they would do that? They are "liarists".
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YES!!!!
It wouldn't!
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You seriously want temperatures to drop by 1.4 degrees? That would plunge us back into the conditions of the Little Ice Age. There would be mass famines, disease, fighting and death. And that's what you want? Are you mentally ill? Or do you just hate poor brown people - the ones who would suffer the most.
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No it is not... !
You don't get it. Warmer AVERAGES means lots of problems. The alarm is for the planet to get too warm. We are already warming it up. The costs of a warmer planet are astronomical.
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How warm is too warm? What is the ideal temperature for the planet? You do realize that the temperature of the earth used to be an average of 10 degrees warmer than now for most of its history, right? And life was far more abundant then than it is now?
The costs of a warmer planet, if any, are far lower than the costs we have already incurred, and will continue to incur, trying to stop the warming.
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Again, appeal to authority. Another government department that gets its marching orders directly from the top. If you think these government departments are trustworthy and free from political meddling then you are clearly delusional on top of being brainwashed.
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Eon I have no wish to argue with you, but isn't it possible that you are the brainwashed one? I'm not trying to insult you, I'm trying to ask you an honest question. If Nasa and Noaa scientists say the earth is warming up and that this is bad, who is telling you not to believe them, and why?
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No, I am not brainwashed. I used to fight for your side of the argument. I have an educational background in this stuff and I have been researching it in depth for far longer than you. I do not suffer from "appeal to authority" like you do. I have a healthy distrust of big government agencies that are puppets to politicians.
You ask "who is telling you not to believe them, and why?" Nobody is telling me to do anything. There are plenty of scientists who present valid scientific arguments and evidence that dispel, or at least call into question, much of the alarmism that you fall prey to. But I know from your rhetorical question that are just waiting to say that those scientists work for "big oil". There is no argument that can be presented to you that you won't just disregard in whole simply by invoking the "big oil" boogeyman. That's all part of your brainwashing from "big green". They have turned you into a loyal little brown-shirt for their crusade.
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