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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous
ThePornNerd, if you truly think you can't get a ballpark number due to him not mentioning the exact investment number, then how come every big new site is in the same ballpark of traffic and most likely , in the same ballpark to some degree. Or do you not think most of these big new hardcore paysites are in the same ballpark of member bases? Do you think if i named the the last top 10 hardcore sites in 2015, some will have 50 members and some will have 20,000?
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OK please list them and we can see.
The problem here is that no one - NO ONE - is going to tell anyone what their paysite is earning. So without cold hard facts (that no one will give) this entire discussion is ridiculous.
Here's why (some of the questions that would need to be answered first):
Is this your first paysite or your tenth?
Do you have an affiliate program in place (traffic)?
Is it exclusive content or not?
How much content will you be shooting per week?
How will you get your traffic? Build it, trade for it or buy it?
If you are buying it then how much are you willing to spend?
How much are you willing to spend to FAIL at findng profitable (paid) traffic sources before you turn profitable?
See, I could go on but you mention "the big new paysites". WHO are releasing these new paysites? BIG companies with BIG budgets or individuals? I was under the assumption that Mutt is a single person, not someone who runs a BIG company with SEO experts, media buyers, etc etc.
So what I said I stand behind: if an INDIVIDUAL is going to start a paysite in 2015 then either there's a BIG budget for content and ads OR an individual tries to build it up "organically" (through traffic trades, SEO, tube uploads, affiliates, etc).
Besides, how many paysites are started by BIG companies that fail after that company has invested thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands?
We are talking scale here, and since this is about MUTT (and not paysites started by Roald's company or JT's or Mind Geek's) then let's be fucking realistic here people please. LOL
PS: Since you added text after I quoted you I will say this: I think we are saying the same thing here. LOL I gave a basic projection of 100K profit for your typical harcore paysite in 2015. This is AFTER content production, ad buys, etc. I think that is realistic. This is in the first year remember, not over the life of the site.