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Old 01-19-2015, 12:04 PM  
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OK please list them and we can see.

The problem here is thatno one - NO ONE - is going to tell anyone what their paysite is earning. So without cold hard facts (that no one will give) this entire discussion is ridiculous.

Here's why (some of the questions that would need to be answered first:

Is this your first paysite or your tenth?
Do you have an affiliate program in place (traffic)?
Is it exclusive content or not?
How much content will you be shooting per week?
How will you get your traffic? Build it, trade for it or buy it?
If you are buying it then how much are you willing to spend?
How much are you willing to spend to FAIL at findng profitable (paid) traffic sources before you turn profitable?

See, I could go on but you mention "the big new paysites". WHO are releasing these new paysites? BIG companies with BIG budgets or individuals? I was under the assumption that Mutt is a single person, not someone who runs a BIG company with SEO exprts, media buyers, etc etc.

So what I said I stand behind: if an INDIVIDUAL is going to start a paysite in 2015 then either there's a BIG budget for content and ads OR an individual tries to build it up "organically" (through traffic trades, SEO, tube uploads, affiliates, etc).

Besides, how many paysites are started by BIG companies that fail after thatcompany has invested thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands?

We are talking scale here, and since this is about MUTT (and not paysites started by Roald's company or JT's or Mind Geek's) then let's be fucking realistic here people please. LOL
Again, you are overanalyzing everything to TRY to make it difficult to answer, asking questions that are ridiculous, very similar to the ones i gave you in my last post

Is this your first site? Really? how many people are launching their first hardcore sites? almost every site in the past how many years has been a site from a company already tied to adult. so why ask that? LIKE I SAID, USE THE AVERAGES!

Do you have an affiliate program in place (traffic)? Ill answer it again, use the averages. Who wouldn't throw up an affiliate program? Do the majority use one? correct. Its alrady been mentiond that hes wondring what a successful new hardcore paysite coudl make in 2015 , so assume that he means if done correctly. having a program is done correctly btw. so your question is answered

Is it exclusive? Do i need to repeat myself, OBVIOUSLY.

How much content will you be shooting per week? Well if you launch with the average amount and update once per week, why does it matter how much youre shooting, thats only stocking up for the future. So no that doesn't affect anything, how often you update, is that yoru question? well how about using teh fucking average, most sites update once a week, why not use that ??!?!?!

How will you get your traffic? Build it, trade for it or buy it???

Well how about all of them since all new big companies do that!!

"Besides, how many paysites are started by BIG companies that fail after that company has invested thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands?"

Again, mentiond several times that he was talking about what one is capable of doing in 2015. So that means, if done correctly and one that worked out as planned. *shakes head*

Do you not see that you are just trying to be difficult? lol


"See, I could go on but you mention "the big new paysites". WHO are releasing these new paysites? BIG companies with BIG budgets or individuals? I was under the assumption that Mutt is a single person, not someone who runs a BIG company with SEO exprts, media buyers, etc etc."

If mutt was looking at doing that, he would hire then necessary people. Or it wouldn't be capable of raeching its potential, the potential hes wondering about. Why would one want to reach a high potential, not invest into those things? Thats stupidity. If he meant on a tight budget with no workers, he would have said that.

Anyway take mutt out of your examples because hes not asking what you guys think he could make, hes basically asking what successful sites make in 2015. I clarified that a page ago. your posts are getting more and more like you think the question is, wht do you think a new site will make in 2015

Re: your request for a list, i will come up with one soon, im currently looking at this stuff, i just found out the average people launch with. next up, putting together a list of all the top hew hardcore sites in very recent years. it might take a bit longer to complete as im working on a bunch of stuff but i will post it here if i do, i wont be dead on or in order but it will be able to give people a rough idea
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