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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd
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To name a few. These sites ARE as high quality as X-Art. How do I know (besides using my eyes)? Because I know how much we spent on content. LOL 50k for 25 blowjobs. LOL
BIG sites that have failed? How about blowjob.com? Or porn.com? You and Mutt know solo girls, not hardcore apparently but that's ok. Several times I have said these projections:
Smaller paysite: 500-1000 members/100K first year profit (after costs)
BIG paysites: depends, sky's the limit, etc etc.
I do not see where ANY of what I say here is crazy, unrealistic, off-base, weird or wrong. Sorry guys but I think many of you (not all) have your heads up your asses when it comes to this subject.
Mutt? First are you his spokesman? I think Mutt is more than capable of fleshing out his own expectations. But even the mighty Mutt, unless he has a BIG budget, will not crack my projections IMHO. Maybe I am wrong (I hope so, I always root for success) but I doubt it. Mutt did not mention Brazzers or Fake Taxi levels. Based on his other sites I would estimate a 'medium-sized' hardcore paysite at best.
Good luck to him!!  |
How many times do i have to say, the question wsn't what you expected him to do, he was trying to figure out what the high quality sites these days pull in if everything is done right.
Now you are arguing something completely different but ill play along
If you are a fraction the size of x-art, believe your content is the same quality, its exclusive, etc etc - then there lies other massive issues. possibly because you are a one man show? and trying to run 100 sites? i dont know bud but i can tell you, for anyone who is competent and has a history of launching big sites, invests the average amount that these guys hardcore big guys invest, that you should make a certain amount, numbers ive thrown around like a couple thousand+ members
I do think your sites are an exception than the norm, if they are infact exclusive, shot recently (and not dated content), has good models, etc - im sorry but if all that is true, you are massively underachieving
Where is your stuff filmed? North america?
Im sorry but yes there are tons of hardcore sites out there, the average person doesn't have high quality content, just because its shot with a nice camera, has studio lighting and hardcore porn actors, doesn'tm ean its high quality. Most of those sites you listed, look like generic oldschool porn and mots of the models are not hot. Looks like a quantity over quality type of business model. Which it is, you know thats the way you manage your business. Ireally dont want to sound like im bashing, its moreso constructive criticism and showing you that , when somebody says high quality hardcore content, they do not mean the average hardcore porn site, like what you have shown me. Youre content is NOT x-art. Theres more to it than what you spend
Am i his spokesman? You made comments about him, i gave you more information so that you could have a better prediction. Im not sure why anybody would ask questions like will it be exclusive, or will he invest little, etc etc - if they knew him. so i am educating you about how he runs his sites. would you prefer not knowing all the information?
"BIG sites that have failed? How about blowjob.com? Or porn.com? You and Mutt know solo girls, not hardcore apparently but that's ok. Several times I have said these projections:"
And to be honest, i dont know what happened behind the scenes, possibly they launch a bunch of products and one was making more money than the other by alot so they focused on the bigger one and stopped focusing on the lower site to make better use of their time and money, does that mean one would be a failure if you lauched one site and made it the best you could? Also, maybe that one was a partnership with a producer who wasnt as good as the other producers? I mean, hell that content is shit. I can see why it'd fail
I was asking because i couldn't; think of any off hand, yes obviously there is some to fail. Is that the norm? NO! its rare. and secondly, you just list websites, if everything that is hardcore and from a big company high quality? im sorry but im looking at blowjob.com's content and if thats what you call high quality, then it comes back to us having a different view of whats HQ. Nubilefilms is high quality, most of brazzers sites are high quality, blacked.com is high quality