Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

ThePornNerd, if you truly think you can't get a ballpark number due to him not mentioning the exact investment number, then how come every big new site is in the same ballpark of traffic and most likely , in the same ballpark when ti comes to member bases (to some degree). Or do you not think most of these big new hardcore paysites are in the same ballpark of member bases? Do you think if i named the the last top 10 hardcore sites in 2015, some will have 50 members and some will have 20,000?

Maybe you guys are unaware but there is a number where most sites will level off at, unless its something insanely unique and a business model that is quite different. But otherwise, most sites use very similar models, very similar budgets for shooting models, similar producers, similar tours and business models, similar marketing strategies, etc - Adult is very cookie cutter. Nobody is spending 10 dollars on a marketing budget and becoming successful in 2015 and nobody is spending a million on marketing, its not exactly like it could be anything, you guys are truly overanalyzing. new big hardcore sites are not pulling in 10,000 members. If there was one, its not the norm for big new hardcore sites so why use it as your number to give to a person trying to figure out a projection to use as a goal?

This is truly like somebody asking me how much will a solo girl site should make if done well in 2015 and i answered with, well is she a famous superstar movie actress, is she going to stick around for 10 years, does she have 3 tits, is she going to work 10 hours a day everyday or 1 hour every 500 days, are you going to spend a million on marketing?

do you get what i mean? these aren't the norms, what model works that often? what model works that little? who invests that much into solo and think it could be worth it? etc etc

I could easily answer the question and have a very high percent of being right. Because i use the norms

You can easily calculate how much of a budget hes talking about when he said high quality content, high quality content has a budget thats relatively easy to project. Production costs are roughly the same for most people. Can you cut corners here and there, yes but in the end, MOST companies are spending around the same on models, producers, editors, etc (for one site) - so the only question that remains is marketing, and since he didn't give a number, assume the average, do you not think theres an average? do you think blacked.com and fake taxi's marketing budget is a world apart?