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Originally Posted by CyberSEO
Like Georgia did. What do they've got from it? They lost war, lost a lot of their soldiers and weapon. At last they lost control on a rather huge part of their territory. Have the States helped Georgians? Have they started a war against Russia to protect their "ally"? No they did nothing. Just stood aside and laughing as usually.
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I understand how the Americans can operate globally. I don't have this view that they are a God send for the Ukrainian people or the liberators like you see in the movies.
My grandpa used to tell me stories of the Ukrainian underground how the soviets had his friends executed. How after WW2 the soviets tried to force them back onto farms and they fled. How they were never able to speak to their parents again.
Ukrainian famine etc etc.
The way people make it sound like the general Ukrainians want to be aligned with Russians is just not true.
Yes Ukraine does have a alot of Russian and Russian speakers. But this was a plan by the soviets to install pro russian population into the east of Ukraine to keep their control. Influence through language and economics. It is like me buying the houses next to you for your "enemies" and then telling you to leave the neighborhood.
Even the russian foreign minister admitted there was an exact plan for Ukraine.
The Ukrainian people in general do not want war. They are a relaxed people. Are they getting played by both sides for sure.
I have heard from people in Crimea that said that the polling stations were full of pro Russians with guns watching your votes. So you can guess why i may have trouble respecting that "vote". The average population there just wants peace. they are simple people and do not want war.
Many people in these areas have lost their business' homes and everything. to make it sound like they prefer to be "russian" is not true at all. they wanted to be left alone to live their simple lives. And now are caught in a game with both sides clawing at them.