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Originally Posted by Jel View Post
NATS is 'just' aff tracking, and going on your past posts how pretty much all your traffic is via tubes/type-ins, you're way better off sorting out MIDs than worrying about nats.

Though also, NATS is very sweet, and if you have a lot of affs, or are starting a program with a view to getting affs other than tubes, is the way to go. Webmasters stuck in 2005 say "I'll only use ccbill" etc, whales will look at ccbill and mark it as a con rather than a pro (though don't *generally* send to revshare anyway, so I'm not saying a switch to NATS will see all the big hitters flock to your program). It pisses all over eg ccbill though, like a rolls royce pisses all over a skoda.
The MIDs are in place so therefore I must move forward. I don't know of any other way to track affiliates with my own merch accounts. I'm open to ideas, as always.

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The migration will not be smooth. Especially if you are switching billers at the same time. There are a lot of moving parts in the equation and getting them all working together will cause a lot of headaches and frustration, especially for someone that's never done it before. I've done 5, each and every one has posed its own issues.

In Mr Nerd's case, not only will he be learning a completely new system, but he will also be playing middleman between: TMM, hosting company, gateway, CCBill, bank, customer support company, password security scripts company, CMS company, so on and so forth. The transition is going to be a task that requires a lot of attention for quite some time, especially for someone who has never done it before.

Each one that I've done has resulted in more sales. So yes, I believe it's worth doing, 100%. Just be prepared for a roller coaster and know that you are not the first or the last to experience the hell that you are about to go through.

My advice: if you are already busy running your company, hire someone that's done it before to do it for you. They will save you months of time and prevent a lot of mistakes from happening.
THIS I the #1 reason I have delayed the process for over 3 years. I am WELL aware of my limitations and am a very realistic person so was not even going to attempt this until I was ready to deal with mass frustration. But now I am because I find it difficult to grow my business with 3rd party processers.

I would, of course, hire you to assist in the transition Sly but I doubt I can afford you. Could I pay with GFY t-shirts? :D


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Originally Posted by epitome View Post
This. This. This. This.

Can be done. Lots have done it. Just do not underestimate what it will take to get it done. NATS can be complex to someone who has only run a CCBill program, but that is because of all the features it offers. I know of too many people who have setup NATS and then do very little with it. If you're going to invest in migrating to NATS, be sure to take advantage of all that NATS has to offer and learn its features inside and out.

I've always viewed the transition from biller affiliate management to in-house as a natural path for a growing company.
The troubling prospect is if after going through all this headache it's possible I will not see a significant jump in earnings. If I didn't have to worry about bouncing affiliates around from one system to another I wouldn't care so much. I can payout my partners myself.

I am also hoping that because I intend to have CCBill continue to payout to CCBill affs the transition won't be as painful. LOL But while there is a lot to learn many companies have done this so I know it's possible. Let's see if it's worth it tho.
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