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Burtman · 07-16-2003, 05:58 PM

At least the old timers played the game drunk, the way it was meant to be played.

Found this in Google:

Consider this:
Bonds, as a homerun hitter is simply overrated. Bonds has had over 50 home runs once in his entire major league career. (Sosa, on the other hand, has been over 50 four times and had 49 once). All of this has also occurred in the era of the super-juiced ball.

Prior to the 2001 season, Mr. Bonds averaged nearly 37 homeruns per 162 games (and he never played the full 162 games once). Yet, in 2001, he hit double his previous career average. Given his obvious growth in size and any sense of honest reality, it's clear that his 2001 explosion is attributable to drug enhancement (Brady Anderson, anyone?). I don't claim to know how long or how much Barry has used enhancing drugs, but I'm certain that he does use them. It's certainly not as romantic to consider that Barry uses enhancing drugs, but it's a reality. Arguments to the contrary aren't even worth my time. It's obvious, he uses them. Get used to the idea.

He had 8 seasons with a batting average below 300 (and a career 295 average, solid by today's standards, but certainly nothing spectacular)

In the last 5 years, Bonds has had RBI totals of: 122, 83, 106, 137, 110. Sammy Sosa, however, has had 158, 141, 138, 160, 108. So, put simply, in the last 5 years, Sosa has had 147 more RBIs than Bonds and beat Bonds in every single individual year, except for last year, when Bonds finished ahead by 2. That's an enormous difference.

Post season, yuk! Bonds, with the one exception of last year, has been one of the worst post season hitters in the history of baseball. Prior to last year, his career post-season average was: 196 1 6 over 97 at bats in 27 games. If you are curious as to how that averages out, it is 6 homers and 36 RBIs per 162 games - far from anything spectacular

Barry is not a team player. He never performs well under the pressure of post-season play. Throw in the attitude and personal issues, not to mention that everyone on his team can't stand him and you have an overrated, arrogant pain.

Another interesting read:
http://www.worldzone.net/sports/baseball/dirtvol2.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in547007.shtml

07-16-2003, 05:58 PM
Burtman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 484	At least the old timers played the game drunk, the way it was meant to be played. Found this in Google: Consider this: Bonds, as a homerun hitter is simply overrated. Bonds has had over 50 home runs once in his entire major league career. (Sosa, on the other hand, has been over 50 four times and had 49 once). All of this has also occurred in the era of the super-juiced ball. Prior to the 2001 season, Mr. Bonds averaged nearly 37 homeruns per 162 games (and he never played the full 162 games once). Yet, in 2001, he hit double his previous career average. Given his obvious growth in size and any sense of honest reality, it's clear that his 2001 explosion is attributable to drug enhancement (Brady Anderson, anyone?). I don't claim to know how long or how much Barry has used enhancing drugs, but I'm certain that he does use them. It's certainly not as romantic to consider that Barry uses enhancing drugs, but it's a reality. Arguments to the contrary aren't even worth my time. It's obvious, he uses them. Get used to the idea. He had 8 seasons with a batting average below 300 (and a career 295 average, solid by today's standards, but certainly nothing spectacular) In the last 5 years, Bonds has had RBI totals of: 122, 83, 106, 137, 110. Sammy Sosa, however, has had 158, 141, 138, 160, 108. So, put simply, in the last 5 years, Sosa has had 147 more RBIs than Bonds and beat Bonds in every single individual year, except for last year, when Bonds finished ahead by 2. That's an enormous difference. Post season, yuk! Bonds, with the one exception of last year, has been one of the worst post season hitters in the history of baseball. Prior to last year, his career post-season average was: 196 1 6 over 97 at bats in 27 games. If you are curious as to how that averages out, it is 6 homers and 36 RBIs per 162 games - far from anything spectacular Barry is not a team player. He never performs well under the pressure of post-season play. Throw in the attitude and personal issues, not to mention that everyone on his team can't stand him and you have an overrated, arrogant pain. Another interesting read: http://www.worldzone.net/sports/baseball/dirtvol2.html http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in547007.shtml