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Old 03-09-2015, 08:33 PM  
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd View Post
I am being VERY general here. I am sure there are respectable cam companies. But it stands to reason that if cams and dating are the last remaining mega-profitable areas in Adult as everyone says then that's where the fiscal shenanigans are going to take place. So like the OP scrutinizing the TOS you gotta keep an eye out, that's all.
I think its always important to read the TOS. I just think that its not a basis for judgement calls when it comes to "who to trust" as all TOS are heavily skewed and if you are actually legit, are not strictly adhered to, by any means.

They are generally to hedge against cheaters and fraud and worded accordingly and always have been and should not be a measuring stick to determine how they treat legit webmasters with legit traffic, doing legit business. For example, i highly doubt you'll ever have a dispute with any program that has been around unless they simply can't pay because they are going out of business. The vast majority of programs will fail. That is a fact. Who cares how awesome their TOS is if you can't rely on them to be around and pay you what they owe you because they have a short history?

About cams and dating, my personal view is that there is always a big misunderstanding. Cams and dating are not more successful today than they were in 1998. I mean, people get hardons for big spenders in cams and think that means something but when it comes to earnings per unique visitor, it still doesn't pan out. Cams are generally very very hard to convert for most people so when it comes to earnings per click, people aren't usually better off playing with cams unless they are specializing. Depending on how you are doing things from your members area, i could guess you aren't seeing better than 1:300-500 uniques to paid sale and members area traffic is literally the best traffic there is for targeting users who are qualified and will pay. Find the right SOI dating offers, filter by goe's to the right offers etc and you can generally get much much much higher EPCs.

I've owned very large cam studios and cam sites and I don't promote cams really at all except white labels that get search traffic. I buy a lot of traffic from tube sites and it all goes to dating. Dating has always been a top converter for any type of traffic since AFF was launched and warez sites were big and had a lot of hard to convert traffic.

Penis pills, dating, pickup artist stuff do better than porn overall in terms of EPC's because of the user's motivation... which to me, looks something like this:

1) Meet real girl today and have actual sex today.
2) Make penis larger, meet more real girls and have tons of actual sex daily.
3) Learn to meet girls and meet girls everyday and have actual sex daily.
4) Interact with real girls and get them to do anything I want them to do right now.
5) Browse and watch random medium to poor quality videos on a tube site
6) Join a site and be stuck with over-marketed, over-hyped content, a disappointing members area and then risk getting my card banged until i cancel it.
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