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Originally Posted by SilentKnight
Although not directly related to the OPs topic of 'What is outside our universe' - but since the thread has digressed somewhat anyways:
I always liked Carl Sagan's mathematical ending in his novel 'Contact' - whereby the creator of the universe (not necessarily a 'god' - as Sagan was an agnostic) - left their signature (so to speak) within the digits of Pi - way downstream in base 11 math where the seemingly randomized Pi digits become 0's and 1's and eventually form another perfect circle when rastorized in a square algorithm.
I read the book years before the movie came out - and actually drew a diagram on the last blank page of the book to help myself visualize the concept of the ending.
I was always disappointed the novel's ending wasn't used in the movie.
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i;ve got to read that fucking book now!
here's the nutty part- i wasn't planning on mentioning this because of how nutty it would come across if i just threw it in this thread but the recent theory that suggests the universe may be forever/infinity got me contemplating it also suggests a creator. i can't explain the leap in thought but it would be absolutely mind blowing if math does ultimately reveal and prove a higher fucking power, a creator if you're open to that term.
and I am.
FUck, Sagan was a complete genius! we watched the original COsmos series several months ago after being completely let down with neil tyson degrasse's watered down silly remake of it.
i remember when it first aired!

yeah, sagan, he kicks ass man!