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Originally Posted by dyna mo
if you think a lifestyle that is based on gaming the system for $29/week for food is a quality passed on generation to generation then you should brush up on Darwin's theory.
you didn't mention homeless people and that was exactly my point.
and i did address your main point specifically. you stated
i fully addressed that. the problem with a $29/week SNAP card has nothing to do with rewarding people for having children. you seem to think $29 is a reward and getting $29 week off da man is some special family trait passed on like a gene. it ain't. that's the point of the challenge paltrow failed on. which you also missed.
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The problem with homeless people is different IMHO. Food stamps should be more to supplement people's needs whom have a income source. People whom work at Walmart for example or elderly people with just social security as an income.. The govt has to supplement many of those people's incomes because their income is too low to live on. We then need to look at why their income needs to be supplemented and then address that issue.
People whom are homeless or whom have 10 kids need to be in a different type of program and should not be on endless food stamps.
Homeless people for example, as you should know living how you do are often mentally ill, some whom are hit on with hard times and then also some whom really are lazy bums.
If you really wanted to tackle homelessness then you would have to identify those groups and deal with them case by case. Raising their food stamp limit for example isn't gonna help much of anything. It certainly wont get them off the streets and lets be fair, most homeless people tend to be fairly capable of getting food. I don't think we have a "starving homeless" people problem. They know where the soup kitchens are, they pan handle or dumpster dive. It might not be an attractive life style but I don't think it's an issue of them staving to death.
As for the welfare queen type of person. I don't really know how we deal with those kind of people. Any time there is a system in place certain people will figure out how to game that system. IMO anyone not disabled or elderly (ie not capable of working) should be placed on a temporary status with food stamps much like unemployment but you have to have actual interaction with these people.
The problem is those kind of people use the kids as a crutch and they know they can do that. They know you wont stop giving them money because the kids would be the ones you hurt. This is why it's difficult to deal with welfare leeches, because it's not the kids fault their parents suck. I don't know really how you deal with this..
IMO Food stamps are just used as an easy out by states rather than actually trying to solve the issue. They tend to be a band-aid that states can use and claim they did something, while never having to address the actual cause or problems.