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Originally Posted by MaDalton
this is correct
and i always thought you are self employed - so what keeps you from retiring at 57?
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I Always worked for myself. And maybe i stop working when i am 57

But at this moment i work and too young to stop working.
But with a lot of things you arrange for your retirement they just pay out when you are 67... or you must arrange everything yourself without extra tax reduction you normally would have when you retire at 67. So it also cost me money. I have seen a lot of people that didn't make it till they where 67 and died (much) earlier. So i think it is also better to arrange your retirement yourself. If you do it with pension funds and you and your partner die, everything goes to the government. But if you arrange it yourself and you die, you can let it flow to your family instead of to the government (where it will end up in Greece).
But i am not alone, would love to see my Mom living in France. But with a younger man that suddenly has to work 2 years longer it will take 2 years extra for that while he is working since he was 16... I am not thinking about my retirement, i will take care. But also for others. If the government didn't steal the pension funds in the '80s there would be enough to retire at 60 years.
I can tell you another example. When you want to live in Costa Rica with your Dutch 'government' pension they will give you only 50% of the normal amount! Cause they can't check if you are living together, they give you lesss cause they asume that you are living with a partner.... And cause you live in a land where the income is lower the Dutch government give you an extra % less off of the money you saved. It is not the other way around, when you decide to live in a land that is more expensive, they won't give you extra pension.
So i think you understand that i am not counting on -and paying my government for that. I prefer saving money my self, the government can't be trusted.
And for the work that has to be done. More and more Dutch people are unemployed cause it is cheaper to get someone from Poland.
So when they put up the retirement age went to 67 they knew most of the oldies would get unemployed.
Better take a young strong man from Poland.
I am in Mexico now. I am glad there is no Euro here. I still have the same exchange rate for pesos as 6 months ago.