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Old 04-29-2015, 07:41 AM  
klinton
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modern pension and retirements system are one of the biggest robberies in the world.
very often if you'd just save money by yourself what you are giving government every month, you would get better money at the end.
PLUS, you could receive whole amount when you are, for example 67. and with government system - you are betting with your government that you will live longer than, lets say 80 years old.
if you live shorter, it is another argument that it wasnt worth it at all.
and tercero - this money is the best LOAN that any government can receive, better than bonds. no % interest rates on it, just free loan for government - like Bjorn said, and sometimes they will blindly steal it from you.
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Originally Posted by MaDalton View Post
that's a specific dutch thing, has nothing to do with the EU or Euro

basic line is - a government cannot spend money it doesn't have.

if you want to retire at 57, your mum too and everyone else then someone has to pay for it

and that usually means higher taxes for those who work

now we can debate endlessly how governments waste money on certain things but overall this won't change a lot - maybe 1 or 2% in the the tax rate

so that you, your family and everyone else can sit in the sun at 57 and have a nice pension, every working person and company would probably have to pay 50-60% income tax. good luck with that

and btw - this is exactly how Greece ruined itself

money is not magically being shit from some donkeys ass
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