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Old 04-29-2015, 08:04 AM  
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Originally Posted by klinton View Post
modern pension and retirements system are one of the biggest robberies in the world.
very often if you'd just save money by yourself what you are giving government every month, you would get better money at the end.
PLUS, you could receive whole amount when you are, for example 67. and with government system - you are betting with your government that you will live longer than, lets say 80 years old.
if you live shorter, it is another argument that it wasnt worth it at all.
and tercero - this money is the best LOAN that any government can receive, better than bonds. no % interest rates on it, just free loan for government - like Bjorn said, and sometimes they will blindly steal it from you.
oh - i won't argue with that - and i am 43 years old and have studied business management and a little bit of economics. and i have paid into the pension system for myself while i was employed and also paid for my employees. so i don't think there's anything you said that i did not know yet.

and as someone that pays for employees that will receive pension one day: Most smaller businesses will not be able to afford what it costs to have everyone retire on a nice pension at 57

this makes it difficult to discuss this with people that live in moms basement, or are employed or just work for themselves

sorry if that sounds rude
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