thats is their problem and this is natural selection. stupid loose.
socialist thinking is to find out "miracle solution" for it - and that solution is to make all people pay...and "wise" government will do with that money what they want to do. because people are stupid and cant think for themselves.
its like suing McDonalds for 1 milion dollars because your cup with hot coffee slipped and now you a little burned.
or it is like suing Ford because you ride SUV from Ford and after 5 years of riding without any walking/ cycling you became fat like pig. so who is responsible for that ? Ford or your stupidity ?
the only difference is that by suing McDonald you may actually "win" that milion bucks, and with government's pension program - you only loose...
If freshly start self employed man has to pay 300 euros/ EVERY month for pension's fund, while his earnings are around 1,000 euros - and not always steady...it for sure slows down economy. government doesnt care if you earn money being self employed or not. what they do care about is their 300 euros/ month, like mobs.
same with companies that have to pay pension fund for their employees - thats why nobody want to give you (employees) contract now and many people work as a part time, free lancers and so on.
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Originally Posted by Paul&John
As far as I dislike it, it is still necessary. People fucking can't take care of themselves. Many people can't even save some money for a few months period, not even for decades to come! And as MaDalton pointed out, what would happen if people will retire, but they won't have any savings? The government (at least in the civilized world) will have to help them out financially.. so we are on square one again.
Not sure what's the solution, maybe some more classes about economics instead of literature or similar nonsense would help (in school years) 
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