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Originally Posted by dyna mo
do you even know that i couldn't care less where Quebec is?
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You don't know where it is: Geography fail. You don't care where it is: You hate people from other countries.
Got it. Loud and clear.
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Originally Posted by dyna mo
hey **********, i'll draw up a storage based solar collecting energy system for your new home that's cost feasible right here-
5 150 watt solar panels per person for a 1400 sq ft home. $200 each.
installation DIY $500
cables $200
solar charge controller $300
batteries 3Kw total $1500
inverter $500
total for 2 people = $5000
this system is expandable, add more batteries and panels at any time. let me know if you need brand names to follow-up and purchase because this is not cost-prohibitive.
you're welcome.
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Sigh. Try reading what other people have to say, will you?
My OP is about the new Tesla battery. I like batteries, You like batteries too, right? Right.
I like Solar, you like Solar too, right? Right!
The only difference we have then, at least according to your last post, is adding solar panels and batteries to our home. Right?
Have you done this already? If so, Good for you (seriously). You might now be buying less electricity, and you are definitely polluting a little less because a lot of your electricity is "dirty" (from coal plants, etc). Good for you, seriously.
Have I done this yet? No. Why? Well first I just moved in to a new house. This is my first house. I still haven't unpacked yet.
But aside from that, my current (ha!) electric bill is only about $120 a month, and 99% of the electricity generated in Quebec (36.643 Megawatts in 2014) is clean energy (
Hydro-Québec at a Glance | Who Are We? | Hydro-Québec).
If I want to use solar to go 100% clean, spending $5000 to get that 1% is not worth the money. It would make much more sense to reduce energy use instead.
If I want to use solar to go 100% "off the grid", it would not be worth it either because at current consumption and costs, it would take at least 4.16 years to break even. But even this is wrong because being in the North, the angle of the sun means less direct sunlight to what you may have, and snow would cover the panels at other times. it is also wrong because the panels you quoted will take too long to charge those batteries. You're also wrong again because my house is bigger than 1400 square feet.
And finally, as I hope you know, Technology is changing all the time. Solar panels are getting better and more efficient, and prices are dropping. I won't be buying a solar panel station "Today" nor will I be buying a Tesla batter "today. Maybe in 5 years I will, and maybe, hopefully, other people for who this technology solves a problem will buy it too.
I don't say that green is perfect for everyone. My OP was to applause Tesla's new venture into batteries. That is all.
Some states in the US are already offering cash incentives to get these batteries and go green. California I think is offering 50%. Neither Quebec nor Canada is offering this yet, excluding the $8000 credit for EV's. They obviously have some political i's to dot and t's to cross. But if they do offer an incentive program, you can bet I will be looking into it.
Ok Cleetus?