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You don't know where it is: Geography fail. You don't care where it is: You hate people from other countries.
Got it. Loud and clear.
Sigh. Try reading what other people have to say, will you?
My OP is about the new Tesla batter. I like batteries, You like batteries too, right? Right.
I like Solar, you like Solar too, right? Right!
The only difference then, is adding solar panels and batteries to our home. Right?
Have you done this already? If so, Good for you (seriously). You might now be buying less electricity, and you are definitely polluting a little less because a lot of your electricity is "dirty" (from coal plants, etc). Good for you, seriously.
Have I done this yet? No. Why? Well first I just moved in to a new house. This is my first house. I still haven't unpacked yet.
But aside from that, my current (ha!) electric bill is only about $120 a month, and 99% of the electricity (36.643 Megawatts in 2014) is clean energy.
If I want to use solar to go 100% clean, spending $5000 to get that 1% is not worth the money. It would make much more sense to reduce energy use instead.
If I want to use solar to go 100% "off the grid", it would not be worth it either because at current consumption and costs, it would take at least 4.16 years to break even. But even this is wrong because being in the North, the angle of the sun means less direct sunlight to what you may have, and snow would cover the panels at other times. it is also wrong because the panels you quoted will take too long to charge those batteries. You're also wrong again because my house is bigger than 1400 square feet.
And finally, as I hope you know, Technology is changing all the time. Solar panels are getting better and more efficient, and prices are dropping. I won't be buying a solar panel station "Today" nor will I be buying a Tesla batter "today. Maybe in 5 years I will, and maybe, hopefully, other people for who this technology solves a problem will buy it too.
I don't say that green is perfect for everyone. My OP was to applause Tesla's new venture into batteries. That is all.
Ok Cleetus?
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instead of yammering on trying to make statements about me, you should be making a statement by having a solar rig on your home. I haven't seen one thread by you about wanting to do that while I have seen the ones about expensive energy sapping guitar refriderators and fancy media systems, which don't get me wrong, are fancy. but Elon Musk launched the Powerwall to make a statement, it's not a practical system for anyone but a few.
even in glorious sunny southern california a solar rig is only doing its best ~3 hours a day during ~3 months of the year. that's all. if the Sun is not perfectly perpendicular to the panels it's not performing at its' best. now add in the complete inefficiency solar collection/energy storage it's simply not practical.
but owning a solar rig is a statement. and one you should be making, not discounting because it's not a panacea for you.