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Originally Posted by crucifissio
riiiiiight it was not stalin who marched in to berlin that ended WW2 but bombing jap fishermen in war torn crippled japan so that 1 man in a palace would officially surrender
riiiiight 
makes perfect sense by not entering the european theatre and staying aside you saved 100.000s of russian lives...and by nuking jap fishermen you saved russian lives riiiiiight |
You're a clown and I hate clowns but I'll respond anyway. Without the Americans opening up a western front Hitler had the resources to keep fighting and killing Russians, add a year on to the war in Eastern Europe. The Russians don't get to Berlin in 1945 without the Allies kicking Nazi ass in Western Europe.
As for Japan, Japan wasn't surrendering, they didn't even surrender after the first nuke was dropped. Neither the Russians or US were willing to negotiate anything but a total surrender and were prepared to Home islands of Japan - the Americans estimated that American casualties would be enormous, up to a MILLION dead US soldiers to finish off Japan. Russia would have suffered huge casualties as well. So the decision was made to use the atom bombs. The best WWII historians have agreed that there was no real surrender coming from Japan, that the war would have continued on Japanese soil and have been catastrophic for both the Japanese and Americans/Russians. You know zero about any of this, stop pretending that you do.
As far as the Red Army goes, they weren't much better than the Nazis, read some Holocaust history about what they did to the Jews they 'liberated' from the death and concentration camps.