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Old 05-20-2015, 11:37 AM  
Matyko
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Originally Posted by kesha1 View Post
Sure. I don't want to name the tubes here, but, for example, the biggest one you know. For years they were fine, and you could delete any of your videos any time you want. Then, all of a sudden, they removed the Delete button, explaining it with their reason that they don't want their visitors to click on the videos that would not show.
Then, probably because of objections from producers they started allowing 3(three) deletes a month!
Now they are back to their senses, and all the videos are possible to delete.
Just like youtube, any tube is just a site where people can upload their videos for others to see, and delete them if they don't want them to be there anymore. But such a precedent would make you think about to what extend the tubes might think that copyrighted material belongs to them once uploaded.
BTW, the tube that you have mentioned (XH) is really a good one, they honestly place the videos in the order uploaded and don't try to play some prioritizing game.
Assuming this is true I say they might have done this for SEO reasons.
The more and more I am getting involved in the tube business I see good trends, but I dislike some.

Let's point out an issue from common affiliate/webmaster side: lack of possibility to enter the game. MOST tubes offer real benefits for Content Owners only. Affiliates are fucked in the business model and honestly, I don't see the way out Benefit on most tubes for affiliates: You can have the watermark traffic. Any gallery submitters here? Remember TGP Alliance? Sunporno and friends. They were always good guys and they remained fair. They let you use your link as an affiliate. It is true that it is shared in 50-50% with theirs, but if this would be general, tube submitting would be a good business.

And another bad trend, affecting Content Owners: some big tubes want Content Owners to over-watermark their own content to PAYSITE.COM/TUBENAME and set up a redirect. The fact that some program owners agree with this and let this happen is one of the most sad things in the tube biz nowadays..

I don't want to badmouth any sites really, for bad acts in the past. I care about what they tend to do nowadays, what is the trend I see on their sites. On some important sites I see good trends. Pimproll's PaidPerView program seems to be good - would love to hear experience about it. ClipHunter.com's video page for official channels is awesome. Partner Programs details for xvideos and xhamster are quite OK. xHamster's fingerprinting solution - in theory - is fucking awesome and should be very widespread...

I believe if the Content Owners, and companies representing the content owners would keep being pushy and ask for more and more fair conditions from all the big tubes, everyone would be way happier.. Except for tube submitting affiliates, they are doomed, unless a miracle happens.
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