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Originally Posted by Matyko
Assuming this is true I say they might have done this for SEO reasons.
The more and more I am getting involved in the tube business I see good trends, but I dislike some.
Let's point out an issue from common affiliate/webmaster side: lack of possibility to enter the game. MOST tubes offer real benefits for Content Owners only. Affiliates are fucked in the business model and honestly, I don't see the way out  Benefit on most tubes for affiliates: You can have the watermark traffic. Any gallery submitters here? Remember TGP Alliance? Sunporno and friends. They were always good guys and they remained fair. They let you use your link as an affiliate. It is true that it is shared in 50-50% with theirs, but if this would be general, tube submitting would be a good business. 
And another bad trend, affecting Content Owners: some big tubes want Content Owners to over-watermark their own content to PAYSITE.COM/TUBENAME and set up a redirect. The fact that some program owners agree with this and let this happen is one of the most sad things in the tube biz nowadays..
I don't want to badmouth any sites really, for bad acts in the past. I care about what they tend to do nowadays, what is the trend I see on their sites. On some important sites I see good trends. Pimproll's PaidPerView program seems to be good - would love to hear experience about it. ClipHunter.com's video page for official channels is awesome. Partner Programs details for xvideos and xhamster are quite OK. xHamster's fingerprinting solution - in theory - is fucking awesome and should be very widespread...
I believe if the Content Owners, and companies representing the content owners would keep being pushy and ask for more and more fair conditions from all the big tubes, everyone would be way happier.. Except for tube submitting affiliates, they are doomed, unless a miracle happens. |
We should talk and brainstorm sometime on how we can better work with tubes. I agree with your overall thoughts about tubes. I was one of the very first Programs to work with YouPorn way back in 2009. I could see the writing on the wall then, even tho I was a noob. LOL
Oh - and the only /TUBESITE watermark we do is for YouPorn. I believe they demand it and it is worth it for them even tho it doubles my Team's workload, watermark-wise. I won't do it for anyone else, tho.
Bottom line: most Programs simply do not know what to DO with tube traffic once it hits their Tours so they blame the Tubes. LOL Your Tours have to be optimized for such traffic and if it's not the traffic from tubes is diminshed. Not 'wasted' tho because tubes are great for branding and you will get type-in traffic from them. But the Goal here is to convert the click-through traffic (the clicks coming from the banner or text links on the tubes) once they hit your site. THEN it's
cha-ching time.
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Originally Posted by TampaToker
Not going to go into exact details but tubes can bring you 100+ sales a day with good content and great promo clips with tubes. I would of not believed it myself but when i worked for JT and reallyusefulcash those were the numbers daily just from tubes |
These numbers do not surprise me at all. Adjusted for size (I am a much smaller company) we get similar numbers from tube traffic.