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Old 05-22-2015, 08:16 AM  
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Originally Posted by robwod View Post
EliteWebmaster: I'm hardly an attorney nor completely literate with US specific laws... but let me just wonder something aloud.

If you are in the US, and they are the US, and the funding was done via a US online service -- and they deliberately sent you a specifically marked refund (in effect admitting they owed you compensation) -- of which you have full history logs/screenshots -- and then "bounced it", would this not be something you could simply file a formal complaint about to local law enforcement as fraud?

Like I said, I am not sure with respect to the intricacies of US law in this respect, so I am not certain whether this could be reported as illegal activity, or if you'd need to file an actual lawsuit. The former would not likely get your money back, however.
I could go that route but because I am currently based in Canada, I'm not sure if US laws will apply in this case since I am currently here in Canada. I paid the $8K from my Paypal funds so it didn't go through my credit card so I can't do a chargeback with my credit card company. And being the assholes that Paypal are, I don't think I would get much help from those idiots if I pursued it legally. I can't say enough things about how displeased I am with Paypal. They are an asshole organization that borders on Fraud because they always side with the scammers. Here's my example of how they double screwed me.

Paypal payment to Brandon Kagey -- I file a dispute and Paypal sides with him saying "virtual goods". Ok I am pissed but to add insult to injury, wait for it...

Brandon sends me a partial refund through Paypal for the above job -- Does a bank reversal dispute with Paypal and.....Paypal sides with the scumbag telling me that the payment was not covered under their seller protection It was a refund for a Virtual Good (the first virtual goods), if anything they should have sided with me and told Brandon tough luck you sent a refund for a virtual goods....but NOOO Paypal doesn't do that.

So essentially a refund for a "virtual good" is magically not covered in their seller protection program. WTF.....If it was a virtual goods the first time, why is the "Refund" also not treated as a Virtual goods? That's insult to injury. Paypal asshats

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Originally Posted by iFriends View Post
Maybe seek help at a black hat forum
Thanks Friends, I will definitely check out one of those black hat forums. I just don't know any of hand. But I will look around, thanks for the suggestion

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Originally Posted by HowlingWulf View Post
$8k seems like a lot of trust for anyone.
That was my mistake, he was just so believable, then again scammers usually are. But I did do a search for his username on the board and since he registered in 2007, there wasn't anyone who had a dispute with him, then again, he probably never had anyone hiring him either. And when I looked up his business, it did have a "storefront" brick and mortar office so again, I assumed with him being around GFY since 2007, having a brick and mortar office, I thought I could trust him for my project. Obviously I was dead wrong.

Makes me very weary about dealing with programmers that I don't know. I have a project sitting here I need an adult programmer to code and have been contemplating just scraping the project altogether rather than get scammed again. The programmers I deal with for my mainstream projects won't touch anything porn related with a 10 foot pole so I had to get freelancers like this Brandon Kagey scammer.
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