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Old 07-08-2015, 02:56 PM  
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Agreed. I was just saying that when I was growing up and you said someone was "raped", it meant that you were forced against your will.

Then there was "statutory rape" which meant that anyone under a certain age didn't have the right to consent to sex.

The first example was the one I was referring to when I said that psychiatrist's have always labeled "rape" as a crime of violence as opposed to sex.

If Cosby slipped girls knockout drugs and then fucked them while they were passed out...it's not an act of violence like the classic "rape" definition was.

It's purely sexual and some kind of fetish. Most likely the "control" thing you're speaking of.
And yes, drugging a person without their knowledge and fucking them while they are out is definitely a form of "rape" and if Cosby did that he should have went to jail.

Which is the fucked up part...because if any of these women had went to the police and had a rape test done...then none of this would be discussed now.
Cosby would have already been in prison 30 years ago.
well I can see why they didn't - at that time, all it would have proven is that they'd had sex with Cosby, and just like now it'd be their word against his. She'd claim being drugged, he'd say it was all consensual drug taking/sex.

It's easy with hindsight to say what we would have done, but not everyone is the same, none of the victims knew about the others, and it's like the jimmy savill situation over here - this huge presence of a guy, well-known, loved by millions, the perception of who he is, and some kids come along and say he was a kiddie fiddler - kids in care no less, tarred with that same kind of brush as 'aspiring actress attempting to kick-start a career'.

One in-care kid... one aspiring actress... they pretty much know nobody is going to believe them, so each one says jack shit - to say nothing of the mental process that happens with such an intrusion on a person, which is the main 'event' if you like, like being smacked down by a woman, the bruises heal quick, but knowing mentally how you just got taken for a cunt is a lot harder to get over, and come to terms with internally.

Of all the doubts to have, in any sexual assault/rape case, the passage of a long amount of time is one that is often used, and is the least relevant (in fact it has no relevance). It's *extremely* hard to understand the mental anguish of sexual assault/rape victims, which is why most people just can't grasp why sometimes/oftentimes nothing is said nearer the occurences, and often is never said at all.
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