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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
This implied claim of there being more money in the industry now due to dating and cams versus in the past when recorded porn was king has in fact been made before. I don't believe it was decisively settled however there are prominent industry figures on the record stating that they believe the overall industry has in fact shrunk. It would be really interesting to do a in-depth analysis though.
As you probably know there was a major leak at a dating company recently. Well some figures are being released in the media and some of these include revenue numbers from various tubes. I've seen some of these figures and frankly it isn't as much as I would have thought. In some cases I did more revenue per week selling AVS sites circa-1999 than some of these tubes did in selling the company's dating product product in one week during 2015. The tubes in fact sent more free members in one month to the company's dating site than I used to get clicks to my site during a whole year back in 1999.
So how could I have made more still with just some shitty AVS site while sitting in a college dorm drinking beer? Well I don't know how far back you go in adult but it really is true that back in 1999 you could have a 1:100 ratio, a 10% ctr, and make $100+ per average sale. This wasn't just a few master marketers doing this but pretty much everyone at the time. To understand, take these numbers and use them for your own traffic right now. Estimate your earnings under those numbers. Now compare to what you are actually making. Do this and you should see that it is unlikely that what you are saying is true...
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Of course you are right, ratios on straight up banner clicks, tube videos plays etc are worse. Nobody would ever deny that, but thats not what I said. If ratios are worse, you just need more traffic (or different traffic). I know it sounds silly to say that, but its what those who are doing well have done. And don't kid yourself, getting ratios like that and better are still available and there are webmaster doing hundreds of joins a day with numbers like that. From tube banner clicks, lol, of course not, but via social networking, email and other sources.
Lots of people are twisting my argument. So I'll be clear.....
ratios ARE worse
Free porn is everywhere and pay site sales are down
but....
Sales on other products are up and making up the difference, and there are plenty of whales out there doing ridiculous numbers of sales. From different sources than in 99 (LOTS of social media etc) and there are far, far fewer affiliates able to compete. I didn't say it hasn't gotten harder, what I said was the cream rise to the top and while its not a cakewalk like it used to be, creative affiliates have done whatever needed to be done to keep their sales the same or rising. New methods, new verticals etc