Originally Posted by JA$ON

Of course you are right, ratios on straight up banner clicks, tube videos plays etc are worse. Nobody would ever deny that, but thats not what I said. If ratios are worse, you just need more traffic (or different traffic). I know it sounds silly to say that, but its what those who are doing well have done. And don't kid yourself, getting ratios like that and better are still available and there are webmaster doing hundreds of joins a day with numbers like that. From tube banner clicks, lol, of course not, but via social networking, email and other sources.

Lots of people are twisting my argument. So I'll be clear.....

ratios ARE worse
Free porn is everywhere and pay site sales are down

but....

Sales on other products are up and making up the difference, and there are plenty of whales out there doing ridiculous numbers of sales. From different sources than in 99 (LOTS of social media etc) and there are far, far fewer affiliates able to compete. I didn't say it hasn't gotten harder, what I said was the cream rise to the top and while its not a cakewalk like it used to be, creative affiliates have done whatever needed to be done to keep their sales the same or rising. New methods, new verticals etc