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Originally Posted by halfpint
I think the whole point of this guys message about a 3rd WW is it wont be conventional war unless the bigger powers of the muslim countries get involved if we send in ground troops. ISIS dont have a lot of heavey weaponry and dont really have a command and control like we do over here in the west. Trying to fight a an emeny like Iiss with only air power wont work. We have been bombing them and so has Syria and they are still gaining ground.
Its an idealogy you have to fight which wont be soved by air power thats for sure.
Sending in ground troops would most prob be one of the only ways to try and stop them which could then spiral into something bigger Fighting a terror group like Isis will be costly to our ground troops as we saw in Afganistan. Isis is a much bigger problem than what people think they are even if they dont have a lot of weaponry because of the way they organize themselves without any real stucture and they have a lot of money which the west has also tried to stop whithout much success.
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Agree, the biggest problem is ideological, even though people who fall into supporting IS are not necessary hardcore believers in the cause, It's just there is a lot of anger and dissatisfaction with the west and how western countries especially US and UK have been fucking the middle east for almost a century now (quite justified anger). IS present themselves as alternative and people fall for it. Sunnis in Iraq are under attack from Shias and seek protection. Young muslims in the west who are unhappy with the system, the establishment and how they are treated since 9/11 are easy targets for IS propaganda which presents it as the the only alternative, that's why they go to join IS and fight.
Amazing marketing though, if they were to put that effort into building a brand could've been the next apple!
IS is a strange phenomena, but it was allowed to evolve by the west, now the beast is a bit more powerful than expected and is inconvenient. One thing to keep in mind is that the west needs the middle east to be destabilized to certain extend, they have almost all the oil, we have almost nothing in comparison. If they were allowed to develop and own their oil history since the 1920's would've been completely different and those countries might've been the rich super powers. In a way what the west did and still doing with the middle east is a crime on the other hand if it weren't for it, the west would've been screwed, big time.
It's a multi dimensional battlefield and while we can bomb the shit out of IS and send ground troops, there is ideological battle and the west is losing that one, problem is we don't really have the moral ground to fight the ideological war...