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kadudu · 09-09-2015, 10:36 AM

Based on the current cost estimate, Germany is going to be spending roughly $8,000 for every migrant. In the Netherlands an asylum seeker costs about $2,200 dollars a month. This means this group can live for four months and the yearly costs will be at least 19.8 billion. At the moment the Germans said that all refugees are welcome, a message that has reached the Middle East loud and clear. For this reason they will have to take in at least the double amount of people that they have estimated. Also, the costs will be much higher since they need to build homes for these people and give them education, etc. In a year or two they will have to cough up at least 50-60 billion a year. And that's only Germany.

This combined with the countries that are not doing that well economically at the moment (France, Spain, Italy etc.) and the Greeks that are going to need some more billions every few months, this whole EU project will be brought to its knees. The citizens will be outraged because the taxes will be even higher than all the raises that already have been implemented. In the last 7 years, in the Netherlands almost everybody loses at least 42% - 52% of their income to taxes and that's without the taxes on all products, they all have a value-added tax of 21%.

The willingness of 3rd worlders to work for less drives down wages (the employee end of supply and demand). This helps the economy, but only in a way that benefits corporations. Expect these European nations to have increasing levels of wealth disparity like that of the USA. Expect plummeting public support of various welfare programs that have worked (in Europe) well until now, due to the purely instinctual human tribalism that cannot be avoided (and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional and ignorant of human psychology). For example, currently Germans support welfare spending because it goes to help their German countrymen who's shoes they are capable of seeing themselves in. However in 30 years the more common sentiment will be "why should my money be taken away to take care of some lazy Muslims? If you can't find a job here then GTFO." Much like American attitudes to welfare and their statistical connection to race.

Multiculturalism is linked to government corruption. The least corrupt countries are very homogeneous. The reason goes back to the innate human tribalism that is not taught and is not cultural and cannot be educated away, because it's human nature. Multiculturalism divides the voter base. Politicians can exploit. You need only look at the United States to see how people who are completely uneducated about economics, and should not even be voting out of sheer ignorance, are more than ready to vote based on nothing more than tribalism, usually resulting in them voting against their own economic and social interests. Instead of campaigns being about economic models and ideas, they are consist of each party trying to convince voters that the nefarious "others" are coming to get you, so vote for me.

We have two choices facing us: Remain leftist, and be faced with the inability to financially support the current social safety nets that make Europe's countries so great due to a nonstop wave of immigration from a part of the planet that vastly out numbers us (This might turn out like Costa Rica, a country with low levels of inequality but also low levels of wealth in general.) Or vote in the far right parties who will do something about this problem but then give us a looming fear of fascism returning.

09-09-2015, 10:36 AM
kadudu Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 220	Based on the current cost estimate, Germany is going to be spending roughly $8,000 for every migrant. In the Netherlands an asylum seeker costs about $2,200 dollars a month. This means this group can live for four months and the yearly costs will be at least 19.8 billion. At the moment the Germans said that all refugees are welcome, a message that has reached the Middle East loud and clear. For this reason they will have to take in at least the double amount of people that they have estimated. Also, the costs will be much higher since they need to build homes for these people and give them education, etc. In a year or two they will have to cough up at least 50-60 billion a year. And that's only Germany. This combined with the countries that are not doing that well economically at the moment (France, Spain, Italy etc.) and the Greeks that are going to need some more billions every few months, this whole EU project will be brought to its knees. The citizens will be outraged because the taxes will be even higher than all the raises that already have been implemented. In the last 7 years, in the Netherlands almost everybody loses at least 42% - 52% of their income to taxes and that's without the taxes on all products, they all have a value-added tax of 21%. The willingness of 3rd worlders to work for less drives down wages (the employee end of supply and demand). This helps the economy, but only in a way that benefits corporations. Expect these European nations to have increasing levels of wealth disparity like that of the USA. Expect plummeting public support of various welfare programs that have worked (in Europe) well until now, due to the purely instinctual human tribalism that cannot be avoided (and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional and ignorant of human psychology). For example, currently Germans support welfare spending because it goes to help their German countrymen who's shoes they are capable of seeing themselves in. However in 30 years the more common sentiment will be "why should my money be taken away to take care of some lazy Muslims? If you can't find a job here then GTFO." Much like American attitudes to welfare and their statistical connection to race. Multiculturalism is linked to government corruption. The least corrupt countries are very homogeneous. The reason goes back to the innate human tribalism that is not taught and is not cultural and cannot be educated away, because it's human nature. Multiculturalism divides the voter base. Politicians can exploit. You need only look at the United States to see how people who are completely uneducated about economics, and should not even be voting out of sheer ignorance, are more than ready to vote based on nothing more than tribalism, usually resulting in them voting against their own economic and social interests. Instead of campaigns being about economic models and ideas, they are consist of each party trying to convince voters that the nefarious "others" are coming to get you, so vote for me. We have two choices facing us: Remain leftist, and be faced with the inability to financially support the current social safety nets that make Europe's countries so great due to a nonstop wave of immigration from a part of the planet that vastly out numbers us (This might turn out like Costa Rica, a country with low levels of inequality but also low levels of wealth in general.) Or vote in the far right parties who will do something about this problem but then give us a looming fear of fascism returning.