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Old 09-19-2015, 04:01 AM  
Jel
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Originally Posted by Rochard View Post
If you don't think the USA is great, you are more than welcome to leave.
Ok I'll make a serious post to that:

I should leave the UK, or leave gfy? I see a hell of a lot of things that make me think the usa isn't that great, just like I don't think the UK is great. Being born in a particular place, and brought up there, well, I don't use that as the sole basis making my place of birth 'great'.

I get on great with tons of americans, tons of UK people, tons of insert_nationailty_here... what I can't wrap my head around sometimes though, is the kinda blinkered view some people have of their place of birth. That's not to say I think the usa is shitty, far from it.

imo all politicians suck, especially those in power, whose ideals have long gone, either by external or internal influences... so in turn they do a shitty job making their respective countries 'great'. I do pretty well, I have this thing, that item, work when I want, a roof, bed, meals, a mercedes, cellphone, internet, and so on and so on. But my personal situation doesn't change the fact that there are homeless people over here - fucking homeless, in the UK, in 2015... what the fuck. Pensioners die every year here because they literally cannot afford to heat their homes. Mental, as in actually mental, people don't get the care they need because of cutbacks and closures, and kill themselves or some other poor random cunt minding their own business in their back garden.

We held the Olympics, put on a great display, produce great music, fashion, innovation, and a ton of other great stuff, but we are far from being 'great'. If someone calls the UK a shithole I'm inclined to agree with them, not come out fighting with my chest puffed out because they 'dissed' some dot on a map of the earth where I was born. Just seems to me that america isn't as 'great' as you stated in your post I was referencing the other day, though you shouldn't take that as a slight, as that's not where I'm coming from. RandyRandy put it pretty well in crockett's fail thread, probably far better than I can actually articulate here, where it's hard for me to express my thoughts properly without it sounding like I'm 'bashing' america... which again, I'm not
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