Originally Posted by Joshua G

OK i will help you. you do not need to come to a conclusion as to whether VW's cheat...VW already admitted to it.

also your truck did not & does not directly harm anyone. The VWs & your trucks exhaust is infinitessimal on the overall scale of externalities wrought by human innovations.

this is my simple point, all along. nobody got harmed, with the exception of liberals who bought the car thinking it was cleaner than it was. Fraud is the big issue, not any actual harm to the environment or to people or animals or plants. there is no provable harm, just theories from the junk science crowd.