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Old 10-05-2015, 07:49 AM  
Stephen
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My wife and I love the Napa Valley Wine Train -- it's a great time, relaxing and fun

I've never seen anyone drunk or rowdy on it...

It's an intimate experience that could easily be ruined by a group of loud, cackling women, regardless of their skin color -- the same way that your dining experience can be ruined by having a large group of people or screaming baby at the next table in your restaurant -- except that in a train car, it's more confined and in your face.

The reason this is a "race" issue is because the language and volume level that these women were using seems "normal" to them, so the only reason they can imagine being singled out is because of their skin color.

For the non-blacks around them however, the screeching isn't "normal," it's a noisy day at the zoo, and not the relaxing experience they paid good money for.

Akin to the gym example above.
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