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Old 10-06-2015, 07:54 AM  
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Originally Posted by crucifissio View Post
"17,638 Indian farmers committed suicide in 2009 ? about one death every 30 minutes"
"Oftentimes, the farmers would commit the act by drinking the very same insecticide that Monsanto supplied them with"

The stats you show do not match the suicide rate. You have it at 2-3K total whilst the official suicide count in india is 130.000/year...the following seems to support my claim:

In 2012, the National Crime Records Bureau of India reported 13,754 farmer suicides.[91] Farmer suicides account for 11.2% of all suicides in India

I monsanto involved directly?? well as somebody who owns commercial green houses and knows a bit about agriculture, I know how much $$$$$$ there is in seeds and pesticides and its in the billions...whether monsanto gives out the loan or some monsanto buddy bank makes little difference...monsanto knows their crops fail, they know the farmers will need insecticide (special mon$$$aanto brand) and its a racket any way you look at it...

monsanto deliberately lies about the yields and resistance of their cotton...monsanto may not be the only player in the racketeering but they are guilty as hell no matter how you look at it...
sorry, Madya Pradesh is a state in India, so those are farmer suicide numbers for that specific state over that time period.. and that would show that farmer suicides have decreased after the peak in 2004

however, with the data we're both looking at, we both can know that there simply isn't enough data to really figure out what is going on, as the situation is still complex and evolving. (monsanto involvment, government support etc)

india hasn't been.. the best.. in dealing with the rights of its poor and farmers. the suicide rate is definitely a concern, however it seems with the national drives for attention to this matter has finally achieve some legislation that helped the situation.
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