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Originally Posted by PaulBaker
I love how you guys justify this stuff.
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I'm not, and I never will justify a needless shooting, or death. I'm just sick and tired of people taking one or two incidents and using them to categorize everyone who owns a gun or isn't anti gun. If a person kills someone with a car, the actual vehicle is marginalized, and it was the person acting out of anger or stupidity. The car is never blamed.
If a guy comes home drunk, sees his girlfriend kissing another man in their driveway, gets pissed and runs over the guy, killing him. It's the driver's fault. He was angry, drunk, not thinking sanely. No one EVER blames the car, when that's what actually killed him. If the same drunk person pulls out a gun and shoots the guy, it's the gun's fault. Same situation, different weapon, different blame. I just can't follow that logic.
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Out of curiosity how do you justify a kid shooting an 8 year girl over a puppy?
edition.cnn.com/2015/10/08/us/girl-killed-puppy-in-tennessee/
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I don't. Once again, you have to take a look at the kid and understand the underlying issues. I have two kids and they've never thought about pulling a gun, much less use one. And there are plenty of them around. Then again, I would like to think I've raised my children properly and they are psychologically sound. A person has to pull out the gun and a person has to pull the trigger. The question is why did they do it?
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America, the only 'civilized' country that puts a misguided notion of freedom before the safety of their own children.
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That's an incorrect statement. The only reason a majority of gun owners have guns is to protect their families. I've taught both my children gun safety at a very young age, and they respect guns. They're not curious and don't go snooping around because it's forbidden. Psychology 101 states if you tell a child they can't do something, they do it. Once again, this all leads back to the individual and individual circumstances. Why was the kid so angry or desperate for the puppy they were willing to kill for it? The gun didn't talk them into it. The gun didn't aim itself, remove the safety, and certainly didn't pull the trigger. So we're not sacrificing freedom for safety. We're keeping our kids safe with the freedom we're given, and we're fighting to keep that freedom intact so we can continue to keep them safe.
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Americans think Aussies are stupid for having a law that requires guns to be locked up with ammo stored separately.
Aussies think Americans are stupid for allowing a situation where kids shoot kids.
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Every country is different, and I could care less what Aussies do. I'm never moving to Australia and I'm certainly never raising kids there. People like to compare England with the U.S. as well, but in England, the police don't carry guns. Try that in the U.S. and see how it works out. Just like homicides by gun, each case needs to be looked at individually. There's no cookie cutter solution to any of it.
One thing I can say is that the pharmaceutical industry is about 100 times larger than the gun industry, and they kill more people, kids included, per year than anything else. 106,000 in 2013 to be exact. But since they pump so much money into the political machine through lobbyist, they're untouchable. And since the media is controlled by politicians, you'll never hear them whisper a negative word against big-pharma. And these companies are the ones making billions off SSRI and benzos that are turning people into emotionless zombies. If you look right below the surface, the real evil is the amount of medication we're pumping into kids these days. That's where my investigation would start, not at gun manufacturers.