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Old 11-03-2015, 04:03 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd View Post
Tubes can be effective if you view them as pre-sells for your content. Of course, your Tours must be optimized for tube traffic and you need to know how to lure the customers to your site with editing, graphics, etc.

But again I ask: if not tubes where does the traffic come from? TGPs, MGPs, SEO, free sites, affiliates, blogs - none of this will make up for tube traffic in mass. I wish this weren't the case but it is.
Forget about optimising tours until you have the content to optimise it with.

Take what the free product offers and then make sure the bought product offers a lot more. That can't be done by cutting up the usual content to make it look better. Because as Robbie says after 30 seconds something kicks in. Either the impulse to stay jerk off or to move onto the next clip hoping it will be better. The number who go to the tour after 30 seconds is too small to count.

Getting them to click on your link of type in the domain after they've come is the key. And here's the clue.

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd View Post
Robbie, you are in a unique position with CM. Meaning, you have a fully active partner in her own site, someone who Members can communicate with and know who they are joining. But what if you don't run a solo site with a model willing to do social media, interact with Members, etc? Then what?
How to reproduce this on a site with many models. Just do what Robbie and CM do in a lesser way. Forget about the model we did in offline, a 20 minute scene, open, action, cum shot and credits. Tubes have millions of them for free and no paysite will ever be able to compete on that level.

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For who will it be a watershed problem? For the tubes? Yes it's true that less and less new porn is produced everyday... Free porn will end one day... it is an end-conclusion, period. Producers need to monatize their content... if that's not anymore possible to a point it's worth investing they will simply stop producing. It allready happened the last 10 years... more and more producers closed their doors.
The day users can't find a video they haven't seen on a Tube and will pay for it? Is so far away it's not a discussion.
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