Originally Posted by crockett

I think you are only looking at the far extreme and bad vs what benefits as a nation we would gain..

First off I can't stand entitlements and I can't stand how some throw the word around about everything. Example most of the right wing tries to call social security "entitlements" which it 100 per fucking cent is not..

Now let's look at education and health care. First of all college debt is now the second largest form of debt in this country, seconded only to home mortgages. That in and of it's self is fucking insane and it's going to destroy this country.

Next, the fact that corporate America has this fixation with college diplomas is also completely fucking ridiclious. You don't need a fucking college education to be a manager but 99.9% of all major corporations require you to have one.. It's fucking stupid and is the root of the problem as to the rise of education costs and the massive debt so some college kid can get a few bucks extra per hour at Taco Bell.

The problem is we aren't equipping kids with the ability to get a job when they leave high school so they go to college thinking that will,solve their problems then still can't get a good job.. We need to be focusing on trade schools and yes that should be a free resource.

You want to be a programmer, then go to a trade school why do you need a 4 year CS degree to program C#? You want to be a machinist, a realtor What the fuck ever.. Well the skills should be obtained at trade schools as a continuing free education after you complete HS.

That is not socialism it's call creating a competent workforce and keeping our county competitive.. It's common sense IMO.

Heath care is also not an entitlement, it's a necessity. Everyone gets sick or needs to see a doctor.. This should be looked at as a basic human right. It sure as hell should not be a for profit industry where the insurance companies do everything possible to not pay for your needed care.

Education and health carecare are not entitlements, it's investing in the future of this country.