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Originally Posted by ITraffic
sounds like brilliant upstanding people. not sad, delusional and selfish idiots at all ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Maggiore
Christine Joy Maggiore (July 25, 1956 ? December 27, 2008) was an HIV-positive activist and promoter of AIDS denialism (the belief that HIV is not the cause of AIDS).
Maggiore's promotion of AIDS denialism had long been controversial, particularly since her 3-year-old daughter, Eliza Jane Scovill, died of Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia, considered to be an AIDS-defining illness. Consistent with her belief that HIV was harmless, Maggiore had not taken medication to reduce the risk of transmission of HIV to her daughter during pregnancy, and she did not have Eliza Jane tested for HIV during her daughter's lifetime.[3][4] Maggiore herself died on December 27, 2008 after suffering from AIDS-related conditions
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I no longer try to debate anyone on this subject but I will say that is a very biased wiki and does not present the entire story, including the numerous death threats against her and her family. For example, it doesn't mention Christine was born with a genetic predisposition to a condition that in essence mimic'd HIV through related proteins which is why she would test positive, then negative, then positive, etc. She had only had sex with one person and he was not HIV positive. She never had a transfusion or did any sort of drugs at all either. Fortunately it does mention that she did not pass HIV to her husband or their other child who was breastfed as well.
I also know Dr. Fleiss, who happened to be my first kid's pediatrician (besides being also the dad of Heidi). At the time, he was widely considered to be one of the best in the country, not just LA. You can try to paint him, Deusberg, Mullis, any of them as "flakes", "denialists", whatever but they are anything but that and I can say that from first hand knowledge.