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Originally Posted by mineistaken
Cut grass smell because there is "juice" inside, not because grass decides "I will send some signal now".
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Communication does not need to be voluntary or conscious to be communication.
That articles says: "Fish do not feel pain the way humans do," which is a hell of a lot different then saying that they do not feel pain.
You are showing the closemindedness (sp?) of western thought. Just because you do not recognize it it must not exist even when proof is put before you.
I have 2 friends (I have more than 2 but I am talking about these 2 in particular).
1 is a member of PETA. We were in a conference room and he caught a fly, then pulled it's wings off and said to me "Look it's a walk (ha ha ha ha)". I asked him, "I thought you were in PETA and didn't like to see animals injured unnecessarily?". He replied to me that "Insects are not animals, they are bugs."
Now from a zoological perspective he is completely wrong but it turns out many people agree with him.
So, since he does not recognize that a bug is indeed an animal then it is ok to torture them in his mind.
The other friend is a vegan or vegetarian. I always get the 2 screwed up. She does not agree with eating meat because of the torturous methods of slaughter used, and instead attempts a diet as much of vegetable as possible.
We were having a discussion and she informed me that it was ok to eat mollusks (clams, crabs, etc) because they could not feel pain, so they could not be tortured.
Again, since she does not recognize that something may actually be capable of feeling pain then slaughtering them and eating them is ok in her mind.
The fact of the matter is that we do not have a clue what other animals or what plants think or feel. We interpret them through our human brain and pronounce our decisions based on what we know and act as if we know everything there is to know.
We can however measure electronically whether a reaction occurs in response to an injury and it has been proven in both plants and animals that when you produce an injury electronic signals travel from that point of injury throughout the plant or animals structure. That reaction, in humans, we call pain and most people find it uncomfortable at best. It is ridiculously arrogant to assume that we are the only biological unit in existence that find it uncomfortable and therefore feel pain.
It is neither good or evil to eat something. It is necessary for all species (plant or animal) in order to stay alive. Everything eats something else over and over and over again.