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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
This is too fucking entertaining.
This has nothing to do with CTR or a direct conversion path.
What do you nitwits expect: The buyer will walk into the clothing retailer and tell the sales clerk he wants to see the Diesel clothing line because he saw their ad on a porn tube? 
How fucking lame ...
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What i am talking about is a competent understanding of the advertising medium itself. How it works... inside and out. The quality of the eyes on the ad. Who they are. What they want. What they are interested in. The competition. How to get eyes on an ad. How to get a message noticed. How to compete for the users attention with the video - which uhm... hello!? is why the user is there to begin with. I am forgetting the extent to which i need to hold your hand and dumb it down for you. Or... oh... you're now going to argue that advertisers don't really know anything about who they advertise to or the medium they use and thats just perfectly normal? Makes sense, Paul. I mean... barry.
PR efforts aside, anyone who actually knows anything about media, these sites, their traffic, the competition and so on, buys fully understands that it will cost them a lot more and they will get next to zero benefit. So yeah, you have to keep saying "its about branding" like no one gets that. It doesn't matter what the intention is.,,, lead generation or "branding" if you can't get the attention of the user, get the attention of qualified users in your exact demographic and get into their head - it doesn't matter what your objective is... branding, lead gen etc. It all requires understanding how to target qualified prospects and a competent understanding of the medium.
I understand that you geniuses have it all worked out that just throwing up an ad is all you have to do. f course you can't do it and you don't - but you know all about it. As i've tried to explain in 20 different ways, it still doesn't mean the audience is the right audience. The medium is the right medium. Or that the benefit in any way at all, outweighs the cost. This is how advertising works you know. You have to know the medium well to make it work on any level.
You people are literally so dumb, that you think that after over 10 years of tubes hogging all the traffic and selling billions of hits and likely trillions of impressions, this makes sense for mainstream companies .... and even funnier, you are willing to believe that it hasn't be tried time and time again with miserable results.
And Barry, you can stop with the BS of implying you buy a lot of traffic and have some sort of competent understanding of media buys. Every member of this forum can start combing tubes and tgps and blogs right now for any paid links leading to you and they won't find them.
What is even more surreal is that many of you on this forum, Pail most of all has argued and argued and argued that tube traffic is worthless. And now, suddenly, its gold. Makes sense. Suddenly its being argued that the glory days are back because every crappy shooter will be shooting to fill tubes so that GE and Coca Cola and Martha Steward can buy the ad space at a premium rate for "branding". Yay for you, geniuses.